obviously in a couple of years they'll try again, but it was blocked aready, right?

nickslaughter02 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They haven't stopped trying continuously since late 2021. You don't hear about it for a few months only because some countries are more aggressive about it than others.

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permo-w 8 hours ago | parent [-]

it's not that I didn't hear about it, it's that I did hear about Germany and other countries standing in opposition to it, and the EU requires unanimity

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nickslaughter02 8 hours ago | parent [-]

- Going one after another for EU presidency since 2022 these countries were in favor: Sweden, Spain, Belgium, Hungary. Poland didn't want to include encrypted communication. Denmark wanted to include everything (text, links, videos, images, calls) but dropped text and calls after criticism (for now).

- Germany is currently not opposed to it (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45273854).

- EU doesn't require all countries to support it on the council level (or parliament level). You just need at least 55% countries (at least 15) that represent at least 65% of citizens. To block it you need at least 4 countries that represent at least 35% of citizens, we are at ≈22%.

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pndy 8 hours ago | parent [-]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45209452 - 11 days ago

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nickslaughter02 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Outdated. Germany's position has been confirmed as undecided on scanning your encrypted messages.

	▲	pndy 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Thanks for the update

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amelius 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In a couple of years they have backdoors installed in the silicon directly.