>The individuals arrested during the operation were found to be working illegally, in violation of the terms of their visas and/or statuses. People on short-term or recreational visas are not authorized to work in the U.S.

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-leads-multi-agency-ope...

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nosianu 3 days ago | parent [-]

That is wrong.

Summary: https://www.hooyou.com/b1-visa/b1-activities.html

I myself once worked for a large German company at a large US software company, porting code to my company's platform. After a few flights back home to Germany and back immigration took me into the backroom, and I described in detail what I did. They stamped my passport and let me in for another 6 months of that work. I did that for a year before switching to another visa. It also worked out because I never even tried the slightest evasion and gave them everything I got, it's not like I cared, if I had been sent back, so what, I had no desire to immigrate. I'm sure under the exact same circumstances somebody giving them a worse impression of hiding something might not have been approved. But in any case, it's definitely legal, you CAN do some kinds of actual work on just a B1, even for an entire year.

It was legal, because I still was 100% employed and paid in Germany, and the job could not be done otherwise, the US company would not send us their source code.

Similarly, in the context of the Korean raid.

One other important point you neglect is that from what I read the legality of the activities were never even questioned to begin with! They simply arrested everyone. They did not know what they wer4e doing, they just needed the arrest numbers because ICE is under pressure themselves. They did not even have any interpreters. That makes any argument about the legality useless, since it didn't even matter for the arrests.

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weberer 3 days ago | parent [-]

The parent comment asked what the alleged illegal activity was, and I provided a primary source straight from ICE. I'm not interested in debating your anecdotal experience or speculation. Whether they're wrong is for the courts to decide. I'm sure we'll hear about it soon enough.

	▲	nosianu 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You are attempting to shift the goalpost after I countered your wrong assertion directly. You wrote a short and very specific post, it is still there. It does not matter that you quoted the ICE, not these days with all the lies, and since they never checked the people they arrested if they actually violated anything to begin with, that quote is useless. There is enough background information available about how that raid went off. They did not check before taking every single one of those people away. And > "People on short-term or recreational visas are not authorized to work in the U.S." is just plain wrong (for B1, but also ESTA -- https://www.nnuimmigration.com/esta-business/ "Incidental business activity"), no matter whom you quote! Your attempt to dismiss it based on me providing additional proof in form of an immigration-encounter directly countering your assertion is noted, but telling. In addition, it should never come to having to go to the courts in the first place!! Taking away likely lawfully acting people in handcuffs to a very uncomfortable stay in ICE custody already causes severe damage, no court can undo that! The only reason they can get away with it for the moment is because South Korea needs the military cooperation because of increasing threats at home. But these methods look more like those of the mafia than that of a civilized state. I'm saying that while not even minding one bit that/if the US now acts against illegal immigration, I never understood why they just let it happen for decades. I understand certain businesses did well with very low-cost labor that they could easily control and exploit due to the illegal status of the workers. The problem is that they now go far beyond that, because of the administrations desire for numbers and headlines, and pictures. And if you have to rely on getting your rights through the courts you already lost - the system is expensive, time-consuming, and slow. Getting exonerated later after you were dragged away and put into prison clothing does not undo the damage! Having to go to court is additional punishment for normal people.
	▲	theossuary 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No, the parent comment asked for what the illegal activity was, of which we don't know of any, because nobody has proven any. You're talking about alleged illegal activity, and given the lack of trust in the US government right now, that doesn't carry a lot of water.