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NedF 3 days ago

> Wouldn't surprise me if it was just half that,

This was openly crowdfunded in Japan. Please explain the lie/scam for us? How does Makuake rip people off?

https://www.makuake.com/project/haribo_dcglobal/

Is this comment anything more than the normal shit HN negativity?

Nihilism is so cool, thinking is so hard, if I try I might fail.

Sure you might be right. Just want to know where the scam is here?

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lozenge 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Did the crowdfunding mention breaking a new barrier in battery technology?

Batteries are made out of components, they have a capacity, volume, weight and price. It doesn't make sense that a cheap battery with low weight has a higher capacity than the existing expensive product.

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daveguy 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because 20ah for a 5v battery is ~357 Wh/kg which is more than the highest density lipo as of 2024 [].

Do you honestly think they are putting the most cutting edge lipo technology in a gummy bear branded battery pack?

I agree with your GP, it is unlikely.

Maybe at least consider the density vs SOTA before you accuse someone of being a nihilist.

[] https://www.cei.washington.edu/research/energy-storage/lithi...

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daemonologist 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I assume they're using Ah at the cell level (3.7v nominal), and then maybe rounding up slightly.

(This is the absurdity of using Ah to measure the capacity of consumer-oriented power banks. They usually output 5v over USB A or a variable voltage over PD, but measure current at the cell level. Of course this fact or the precise voltage is rarely stated anywhere.)

	▲	GuB-42 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		It actually is, when you read GGP's link [1] 20000 mAh (3.85V/77Wh) Which is consistent with what the latest mass produced batteries can do. [1] https://www.makuake.com/project/haribo_dcglobal/

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wkat4242 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

True and the plastics used aren't typical low weight, the attached cord also weighs (which many power banks don't have). I doubt it even uses a GaN DC-DC converter. There's no way this could be lighter than one designed specially for lightness if the capacity was real.

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gruez 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

To be fair, as others have mentioned, claiming internal battery amperage compared to output amperage is a common enough fudge that they're not materially lying.

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numpad0 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Makuake is supposed to be a crowdfunding site but it's more of Groupon now. Lots of "projects" are just rebadges from AliExpress, profiting from the fact that English proficiency of Japanese consumers as well as appetite for foreign sold product is effectively zero, virtually unexisting those websites.