| ▲ | alecsm 14 hours ago |
| Right now if you want to use internet on weekends you need to pay a VPN. Even some online games on Steam stop working. I've seen also a several Twitch streamers who can't stream, startups down, etc. We're basically hostages of this stupidity. And you know the funny thing? Football streams are working just fine. Now I feel morally obligated to watch pirated football and never pay them for it. |
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| ▲ | EbNar 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| They are stupid enough that they block almost no ipv6 range. So if your provider has ipv6, you're relatively safe. |
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| ▲ | SilverElfin 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That’s insane. Do citizens not have a recourse? Like maybe a freedom of speech constitutional angle? |
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| ▲ | aarroyoc 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There's one recourse in the Constitutional Court driven by Clouflare and RootedCON but the thing about the Constitutional Court is that it can be very slow and it's heavily politicized and I'm not really sure the government position on this. Right now, only one leftist Catalan party has said anything against the blocks in the Congress. Also many mass media are not reporting this issues because they're also an interested party. | |
| ▲ | userbinator 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Freedom of speech, in the strong form that is most familiar in the US, is largely not a thing in other countries. | | | |
| ▲ | alecsm 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | We have the freedom to say we're against it. The system is rotten to the core and run by people detached from reality. | |
| ▲ | jmyeet 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So many people may not realize that this sort of thing has happened and does happen in the US. Some may not know how large ISPs connect to each other. If you're sufficiently large, you basically get to peer for "free". There are common peering points where most of this happens. Now, how does traffic travel between ISPs? WWell, routing protocols (notably BGP4) dictate how these connetions are used. Thing is, providers can directly and indirectly throttle traffic with all this. A famous example is where several US ISPs, notably Verizon FiOS (from my own experience) to Netflix. There was a time about a decade ago where in the evening you could get <500kbps and Netflix was unwatchable. Verizon alternated between denying it and saying it was a technical limitation. But lo and behold if you just used a VPN to bypass Verizon's routing and peering Netflix was completely watchable. Many believe (myself included) this was intentional to try and kill Netflix and prop up their declining cable TV business. | | |
| ▲ | bombcar 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It was intentional - on Netflix’s part. They intentionally picked a partner with little or no peering agreements, and then started dumping terabits of traffic on “peers” and demanding peering agreements. | |
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| ▲ | pell 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They could also make the sport more affordable to watch again. |
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| ▲ | hsbauauvhabzb 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Why would they ever do that now that they have a captive audience? More likely it goes the other direction. | |
| ▲ | Yeul 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Football clubs have a billion eurodollar budget that they need to pay for. And how do they do that? With TV licensing. I live in the Netherlands and everyone here has accepted that a Dutch club will never again get into a Championship League finale.
Every Dutch star is playing in Spain or England. | | |
| ▲ | conradfr 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "The European football ecosystem is already dead but it doesn't know it yet." It's not sustainable and has to pop, but god damn is is resilient, even if it's kind of artificially. | |
| ▲ | hedora 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | At least in the US, there are minor league / feeder teams that are much cheaper to watch. Going to the stadium for a game is essentially free, and actually enjoyable, since getting tickets and entering the stadium isn’t like dealing with the airlines/tsa, but worse. You’re still supporting the mob though. | | |
| ▲ | arcfour 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Entering the stadium of an MLB game is maybe a 2-10 minute wait in line followed by scanning your ticket. It is in no way comparable to flying, let alone worse...that's absolutely crazy. Heck even the NFL is just standing around in line, walking through the metal detectors, and scanning your ticket. Source: have gone to 2-3 dozen MLB and NFL games. | | |
| ▲ | mbreese 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | My local MLS team recently switched from airport style scanners (remove keys and phones from pockets) to continuous walk-thru (keep everything in your pockets) style metal detectors. That coupled with NFC ticket readers has made the entire process much faster. The last MLB game I saw (this summer) was a similarly easy process. |
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| ▲ | hsbauauvhabzb 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I keep seeing this rhetoric, but every time I use a vpn for non piracy stuff I’m captcha’d to hell. Is my experience somehow different from most? |
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| ▲ | justsid 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If the experience is everything is blocked or everything is captcha hell, the latter still sounds like an improvement. I personally have no need for a VPN so I don’t know what the internet is like with one, but it does sound like without one the internet is essentially blocked. | |
| ▲ | joseda-hg 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The more widely used a VPN the more aggresively it's captcha’d, use a paid less known VPN and the experience improves dramatically |
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| ▲ | labcomputer 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe that’s the point? So that you have to watch soccer on TV? The purpose of a system is what it does, after all. |
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| ▲ | echelon 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > now if you want to use internet on weekends you need to pay a VPN. Weekends? Do they specifically block the internet (or at least the websites mentioned in the article - GitHub, etc.) on weekends? Blocking Cloudflare seems insane. That's a huge portion of the internet (for better or worse). |
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| ▲ | jowea 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The games are presumably on the weekend. This is abou blocking streaming of games that are currently happening. | |
| ▲ | alecsm 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Matches are on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. Sometimes on Mondays. So, yes. |
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