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dan-robertson 14 hours ago

When I was a student, no one would seriously say they had a ‘doxbridge education’ for the same reason that saying you went to an ‘Ivy League school’ meant you went to a shit one like Brown (idk about the US rankings tbh; basing that on a Lisa Simpson nightmare). That’s still obviously true today.

I expect new hires at my employer and our competitors to continue mostly coming largely from Oxford and Cambridge (plus to a lesser extent Warwick, Imperial, and some European schools) and not much from Durham.

neilv 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> basing that on a Lisa Simpson nightmare

https://quahog.org/FactsFolklore/Trivia/Limelight/TV/The_Sim...

> Brown ('81) alumnus and Simpson's writer Ian Maxtone-Graham takes credit for chosing his alma mater as Lisa's less-than-top choice: "I chose Brown because I went there, and I felt like the school could take a joke,"

onlyrealcuzzo 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Brown is a shit school?

That's a level of elitism I don't often encounter.

dan-robertson 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

“Mmm, heck of a school. Weren’t you at Brown Otto?”

I think you’re confusing a statement about ranking in a small set (Ivy League schools) for a statement about a bigger set. This isn’t uncommon – iirc there was some big furore a few months ago about admissions to US schools where much of the disagreement seemed to be downstream of different people thinking about different numbers of top or acceptable universities (and then sometimes having a big difference between the intuitive percentages of possible university options and the actual percentages they made up)

I think it’s still the case that people who describe themselves as having gone to an Ivy League school mean a school like Brown. If you went to Harvard then either say it directly or mumble something about a school in Boston – why say something that sounds similarly fancy to the truth but that could also be interpreted as something less elite? Saying you went to school in Boston is much lower in fanciness than Harvard or Ivy League except that most people know what it is code for.

neilv 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Saying you went to school in Boston is much lower in fanciness than Harvard or Ivy League except that most people know what it is code for.

At one point, I identified at least 4 categories of how Harvard alumni may mention or not mention where they went to school.

The funniest category is the one you mention: saying something like "back East", as a way of avoiding saying that you went to Harvard, as if you don't want to brag, while still making sure they know you went to Harvard, because you actually do want to brag.

That category might still be a thing, but I bet only for a very small minority. Most Harvard people are decent people. And even most of the minority who graduate and eventually do things you don't like, from positions of power, will have some poise. Living in the neighborhood for a long time, I have a suspicion that there's a respectable decorum that new students pick up on almost immediately from the student body culture, if they don't arrive with it. Each academic year, I almost never see any kind of public douchiness after the first week of September, until guests arrive for graduation/commencement. Then, I will probably notice at least one bit of overt jerkiness by a visitor, who, my theory goes, didn't attend Harvard themselves.

programjames 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think Harvard and MIT students mostly say, "Cambridge," rather than Boston. Then, when the inquirer frowns in confusion, they mumble, "Boston".

abxyz 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it’s like saying you earn six figures, everyone knows that means $110,000.

dan-robertson 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m not sure that’s true. It’s true in the sense of being around where the mode is for the distribution of incomes over 100k, but people (I know) tend to not like boasting about money, either out of humility or some expectation that they might be taken advantage of for revealing a high income, so they may be happy to understate it. I don’t think 100k is elite enough anymore (most programmers in the US, managers at some fast food stores, etc) for the difference between 100k and 500+ be an insignificantly polite downgrade.

JdeBP 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You don't watch enough The Simpsons. (-:

It's the daydream sequence from series 10 episode 7, 'Lisa Gets an "A"'.

lofatdairy 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's a weird intersection in ultra-elitism where true blue-blooded snobbery is indistinguishable from middle-class envy.

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fifticon 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

yup, that's where the brown color comes from