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AfterHIA 11 hours ago

There really needs to be a Second American Revolution. It should be bloodless and as simple as 90% of the country showing up to take back the wealth that was stolen from the middle classes during the neoliberal assault. The popular momentum exists for this project in both the MAGA camp and lefties that support Sanders. It seems like the only alternative is liberal authoritarianism which we're seeing from Vance and Peter Thiel. We still have a chance. Let's use it.

This isn't a drill. Let us assemble the Rebel Alliance.

Nasrudith 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah yes, the syllogism of thieves strikes again. - You have it. I want it. Therefore you must have stolen it from me and I am justified in taking it "back".

Have you read history at all? "Revolutions" by entitled thieves who feel that every transaction they agreed to is somehow retroactively unfair because somebody else has more money is the surest way to kill an economy. Nobody wants to do trade with cannibals.

AfterHIA 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Wah, wah, wah brainwashed member of the Adam Smith Society that never actually read, "Nations" obviously chiming in.

The American people are entitled to what was taken from them-- competent public education, accessible higher education and healthcare, laws preventing gross concentrations of wealth through the enforcement of anti-trust law (VC groups I'm looking at you), and for we computer dorks the use of ARPA funding to produce novel new technologies. Most or all of this is non-controversial for most Americans.

http://rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-2.html

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-histo...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._C._R._Licklider

anonymousDan 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You talk like it's the case that people with wealth never actually stole it. Yes I've read history thanks, and there are plenty of cases where it turns out for the better for the majority of people. Judge each case on its merits instead of citing fatuous truisms.

AfterHIA 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not a myth. This is a report from the RAND Corporation which is more than reputable which details the the effects of a massive wealth transfer that's been occurring since the early 1970's. With all due respect you haven't, "read" history beyond watching YouTube videos about the Roman Empire kiddo.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/working_papers/WRA516-2.html

bdangubic 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

with a comment like this we can tell you’ve “history books” as much as I’ve went on a date last night with Taylor Swift :)

9dev 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You’re on a very slippery slope yourself there. Did the native Americans "agree" to the transactions that took their land away, land they never considered something you could own in the first place? Did the African tribes converted to Christianity by colonists agree to give up their way of life? Did the peasants in feudal times agree to being servants of the aristocracy? Did the tribes in early Europe agree to submit to the Romans?

Throughout history, people have been coerced into a subordinate position by the stronger party, without much choice over their fate other than to give in to pressure. Until that pressure grew too strong under the greed of the privileged, as it always does eventually, giving way to revolution.

AfterHIA 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The camel's back is breaking and we're already half way to right wing populist authoritarianism. Meaningful piecemeal reform is necessary but will take decades. We need a Carnation moment. People need to feel like they have a meaningful future again. This will either come as a light civil war or a mass popular movement. Choose blood. Choose not. Choose a revolution for some or a revolution for everyone. Choose soon as the time is limited.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnation_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_revolution_(German)