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▲ cooloo 14 hours ago

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▲g-b-r 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> From POV of Israelies they gave Palestinians (2) and got a genocide in returns.

The one Israeli prime minister who was about to give the Palestinians (2) was killed by an Israeli

> Looking at Palestinians behavior they only want (1) that it's basically genocide for all Jewish Israelies. I guess it more complicated than you think

Wanting their land back does not imply wanting to exterminate its present occupants.

▲tguvot 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Quoting the one Israeli prime minister who was killed: "Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin used the phrase "less than a state" to describe his vision for a Palestinian entity during negotiations.

After Rabin was killed, there were offers that palestinians refused

▲g-b-r 7 hours ago | parent [-]

There were some you consider particularly generous?

After the Netanyahu-backed Hamas take over of Gaza, there was little hope for discussions, of course

▲tguvot 7 hours ago | parent [-]

actually, hamas took over gaza because of USA. Netanyahu had nothing to do with it. Small refresher on palestinian politics:

- 2006 Elections were general elections in Palestinian Autonomy

- Both Israel and PA were against elections because they were afraid that Hamas will win but USA forced it because "democracy shall prevail and will resolve everything"

- Hamas won general elections in Palestinian Autonomy in 2006 and assembled government chaired by ismail haniyeh as prime minister

- USA is shocked as "nobody saw it coming"

- USA trained Fatah to coup against legitimate Palestinian government

- Coup succeeded in west bank and failed in gaza in 2007

- During coup, Hamas killed, dragged behind bikes or threw from rooftops those that opposed it

- After coup, Hamas tortured into obedience or killed all remaining opposition

▲cooloo 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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▲_DeadFred_ 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, but the words of the leaders do. Their actions on Oct. 7th do.

▲_DeadFred_ 8 hours ago | parent [-]

And of course the parent, which was not worthy of being flagged but was simply pushback, it now flagged and censored.

When you flag anything inconvenient/uncomfortable into oblivion, you are not having a discussion. You are simply pushing a narrative.

▲churchill 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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▲CLPadvocate 12 hours ago | parent [-]

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