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| ▲ | throwawaymaths 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > there’s little evidence of the same level of systemic abuse and disregard for institutions in the name of revenge If you think that, you've not been paying attention. Both sides doing it is disgusting and I think the right does it more than the left (at this point in time), but the left DOES do it. | | | |
| ▲ | kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > little evidence of the same level of systemic abuse You not looking for it doesn't mean "little evidence." It's well documented that the previous administration pressured social media to silence views it didn't like, as well as instances of debanking conservative organizations. That's not to say this administration doesn't throw its weight around, too, but to think it's only one side make you complicit in the problem. | | |
| ▲ | herval 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Some individuals from the previous administration asking a donor to do something is not exactly the same thing as the president FORCING someone to do it and demanding bribes or else they’ll impose fines on the business (which he then proceeds to do anyway, eg with Nvidia) You’re quite literally a character from the book in this post, if you think they’re equivalent (your argument is verbatim what one of the nazis interviewed uses to justify having supported hitler) | | |
| ▲ | Jensson 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | They were making large overreaches and censorship, thinking anything else also makes you a person from this book. This report was written when Biden was still in power, it details how they did pressure companies to censor material and not just friendly suggestions: https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/weaponizati... Authoritarianism getting dialed up and voters having less power is bipartisan, this cannot get fixed by just changing one side. As long as democrats keeps ramping up republicans will feel like they have to ramp up as well, and vice versa, democrats ramp up since they feel republicans ramp up. You can't get out of this by just changing one side. | | |
| ▲ | herval 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | So you think “both sides are the same” and that democrats “ramping up republicans” legitimizes what the government is currently doing, all based on a report by the judiciary that’s controlled by the current administration? |
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| ▲ | thrance 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > It's well documented that Show us, then. There's nothing as egregious as what the right is currently doing to be found in the archives, and you know it. | | |
| ▲ | qcnguy 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Go read the emails the administration was sending to Twitter demanding people be taken down left and right. Or if you want a wider view than just the US, look at what European governments demand from social media companies. It's all censorship of the right by the left, zero in reverse. But it's true that the left does not need to overtly threaten from the top as much because they already purged all the institutions of anyone who would resist them, so they can just coordinate directly across institutional lines. They don't need to threaten when they have plenty of insiders willing to do the work for them for ideological reasons, without being threatened. | | |
| ▲ | herval 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Go read the emails the administration was sending to Twitter demanding people be taken down left and right. They used twitter’s appeal process at the time. Twitter was never forced to take anyone down. The emails prove that, in fact. Twitter was a fairly neutral player (as much as social media platforms can be neutral) and tried to abide by US free speech rules plus their TOS (which is what extremists try to misunderstand: companies don’t have to abide by “free speech”, they’re private enterprises and have terms of use). > look at what European governments demand from social media companies. European governments follow European laws and require companies operating in Europe to comply. It’s not complicated. Your worldview seems to be that anyone that’s not MAGA is “the left” and the whole world should follow American laws. That’s not how any of it works. You’re letting your brain be hijacked by fear and identity politics. It’s not healthy for you. | |
| ▲ | _DeadFred_ 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The Twitter files revealed the government communication to Twitter was a continuation/mirroring of communication from the previous Republican regime making requests of Twitter. Purge? Which administration threw out all of our civil service rules and purged people as soon as they had power? Which is telling the DOJ PUBLICALLY 'there are the people you need to get convictions against because it's making us look bad? Hint, it wasn't the previous administration. Your second paragraph is a direct indictment of the CURRENT Right wing administration, who have incorporated exactly what you condemn as part of their current plans, spoken out loud that is their plan, and have executed on this plan. Forget the past, if what you say is bad and should be prevented, I'm here, now, agreeing with you so lets condemn this shit! We can rehash the past come next election, but let's take care of ongoing/current business today. |
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