People have to make a living, that’s capitalism for you. You expect her to spend years on this and just release it for free? Then pay her rent and stock her fridge for her.

There is nothing wrong with making money writing a tell-all so far as the work is rigorous and truthful. Attacking her for profiting is a cheap way to discredit her without having to assess the merits of her work.

Yes it’s valid to critique the source and see where funding is coming from, that’s important information, but discrediting someone out the gate for making money on something is simply lazy and requires no critical assessment at all.

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firesteelrain 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Fair point, but the issue isn’t that she got paid. It’s that the reporting frames her as bankrupt martyr while burying the half-million advance. Making money on a book is fine, but when you sell it as whistleblowing rather than commerce, readers deserve to know the financial context up front.

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Retric 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There’s often significant payouts associated with whistleblowing because it’s so financially risky. The SEC has paid people way more than 500k and it’s not uncommon for those people to regret it.

https://www.sec.gov/enforcement-litigation/whistleblower-pro...

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BolexNOLA 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Fair point, but the issue isn’t that she got paid.

Then we shouldn’t assert that it matters. I’m glad we agreed ultimately it doesn’t, but I just want to be very clear there.

The half-million advance does not mean she can’t be going bankrupt. As I said, it’s not exactly lottery money, especially when 10% of that is at risk for every offense she’s up for, and she is struggling to get the rest of her money the book would net because of their blocking it. You’re ignoring a ton of context and overstating how much 500k should solve her financial woes.

Also, it’s not “buried,” it’s in the article clear as day. You just think it should be the first thing stated.

Frankly I’m not sure what your aim is here. You’re being wildly charitable to Facebook here, whereas I would think we should start on her side until we see reason not to be.

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firesteelrain 9 hours ago | parent [-]

> Frankly I’m not sure what your aim is here

I get what you’re saying, but my point is different. It’s not about rooting for Meta, it’s about how every story gets framed as righteous activism. After a while it feels performative more than principled. I don’t think noticing that makes me “pro-Facebook,” it just means I’m tired of the constant activist spin that leaves out key context.

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BolexNOLA 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I don’t get what you’re getting from this article that is leading you to the conclusion that this is performative and I don’t know what key context is being left out here. They tell you clearly that she has been paid for this book and how much it was for. That is literally why we are having this discussion.

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firesteelrain 8 hours ago | parent [-]

The whole thing feels performative because the framing is all martyrdom. “Bankruptcy for exposing Meta” makes for a good headline, but when you bury the $500k advance it turns into a morality play instead of straight reporting. Writing a book and doing media is symbolic, but it’s not the same as taking protected disclosures through proper channels. That’s where the activism starts to look more about appearance than effect.

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BolexNOLA 7 hours ago | parent [-]

If this is what is happening (which seems to be the case) then it’s not performative whether it feels that way to you or not.

You have no reason to not accept this article at face value yet you seem to be trying awfully hard to find reasons to be cynical and spread doubt.

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firesteelrain 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Skepticism isn’t cynicism. It is just not taking the packaged narrative at face value.

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BolexNOLA 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Call it what you want. Unless there’s something in the reporting to indicate that it is incorrect, then you should take it largely at face value. If you don’t, then go find evidence that counters it and make up your mind.

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firesteelrain 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m not saying the reporting is factually wrong. Facts can be right while the framing still shapes the story in a way that misleads. That’s why skepticism matters.

It is about noticing when the narrative is doing extra work.

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dh2022 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So cry me a river then when Meta asks for the money owed (so far Meta did not).

I would expect someone motivated by the truth to put this out on a blog or podcast for free.

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dgfitz 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> People have to make a living, that’s capitalism for you.

What does making a living have to do with capitalism? What a strange thing to say.

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BolexNOLA 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I don’t understand how this is confusing or otherwise perplexing. People can’t just spend years doing this stuff for free, I’m sure we both know this and it’s strange for you to pretend otherwise.

We don’t have a system that provides for that unless you’re incredibly privileged/financially set already.

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dgfitz 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I should have been more clear. The entire world doesn’t practice capitalism. You’re projecting that idea like it’s true, it isn’t.

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		She’s a US citizen living in the US writing for a US publication about a US-based company and being challenged in the US legal system. The US is a capitalist nation. I do not understand where your objection is coming from.