What issues do you feel left behind on? And why do you think the Democratic Party has moved left on them?

The mistake I think you're making is that people want to reengage with the fascists that call themselves Republicans or that their political beliefs are legitimate. Your party is letting an authoritarian president tear our rule of law, customs, institutions, economy, and people apart - and it gets worse everyday. There is no engagement with the insanity that is MAGA.

If you just want an example, I have many friends and family who are gay or trans. Republicans don't believe they should be allowed to exist, and at the extreme ends, advocate violence against them. Why should I pretend that there's any engagement possible on that angle, when one "side" is inherently violent?

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baggy_trough 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

“Republicans don't believe they should be allowed to exist”

What does this mean?

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duped 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What it means on its face - they want them dead or gone.

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baggy_trough 3 hours ago | parent [-]

You think that Republicans typically want gay and trans people to be killed, and if not, gone (where?)

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duped 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, now you're getting it. There is no "where" so... what is the (final) solution when queer or trans people are still there?

This is why there can be no mistaking the difference between Republicans and Nazis. All their advocacy and policy translates into the same (il)logic leading to the same conclusions.

	▲	baggy_trough 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Back in the real world, this is not happening.

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xyzelement 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

As I alluded to in my prior comment - the fact that you are so ready to call people insane fascists (or in prior post, dumb or evil) is the end of the conversation.

Wherever you live in the US, at least 1 out of 3 of your neighbors voted for Trump. That's a lot of random people to call fascist.

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duped 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I'm sorry someone telling you that your electoral choices are dumb, evil, insane, and/or fascist made you act dumb, evil, insane, or fascist, instead of engaging in some self reflection on why your political party of choice could be considered dumb, evil, insane, and fascist.

I take it as a loud signal you didn't answer the question and your sibling comment that you share republican "values" and "support faith" that I'm not wrong in my judgement.

There can be no tolerance of intolerance. I hope you wake up before this generation needs its Nuremberg trials to learn.

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xyzelement 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Ok let me give you a richer answer. You ascribe to Republicans (so, to me) a belief that gays or trans shouldn't exist. Just like earlier you ascribed to us/me a hatred of immigrants.

These are (1) NOT MY VIEWS and (2) views I don't hear from actual Republicans.

If someone told me they hated immigrants or gays or trans I would tell them to fuck off and never speak to them again.

So what do I do with the fact that people like you easily ascribe horrific views to others and then consider them worthy of the Nuremberg trials? Doesn't leave much room to join your team does it.

	▲	duped 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> These are (1) NOT MY VIEWS But you vote for people with these views > and (2) views I don't hear from actual Republicans. I hear this from the President, and every leader of your party that supports him. Maybe you're not hearing it. > If someone told me they hated immigrants or gays or trans I would tell them to fuck off and never speak to them again. Then maybe don't vote for them? The President has these views. > So what do I do with the fact that people like you easily ascribe horrific views to others and then consider them worthy of the Nuremberg trials? Hopefully, listen. And understand that Republicans today are the equivalent of National Socialists in 1933. > Doesn't leave much room to join your team does it. I don't have a team, I observe that Republicans are destroying my country, and I don't support them as a result. The room is "stop voting for people who don't believe in Democracy, freedom, and the Constitution." Again: reconsider what specific views you think democrats went "too far left" on. The party is full of centrists. Meanwhile, Republicans have purged their party of everything but MAGA cultists. There are no reasonable republicans in elected office left. If you don't hate gay people, hate women, hate trans people, believe in economics and science, believe America was built by and for immigrants, and aren't a fascist, then the Republican party doesn't support you. I don't know what values you think they share with you.