Reading some comments here made by highly educated people, given HN audience, about China, goes to show how much anti china and anti communist propaganda is deeply ingrained in the average American citizen. For people criticizing a whole civilization 3x as big and 10x as old for its lack of thought freedom, you sure seem very lobotomized to me. Just mind boggling ignorance/arrogance.

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more_corn 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Do you disagree that China regularly censors speech? Retaliates against dissent? Locks masses up people up for being the wrong race or religion?

Don’t get me wrong there are some amazing things about China. Freedom isn’t one of them.

For someone criticizing commentators here let’s hear your credentials regarding knowledge of China. Or are you just a bot reflexively criticizing anyone who questions China?

	▲	lurking_swe 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I think their point is many americans are simply not capable of having an honest debate about the pros / cons of living in both countries. It’s OK to not like a country and give them credit where credit is due. They just say china has NO FREEDOM and CANT TRUST THE CCP, and shut down the conversation, as if the debate has been won? As if no other metric matters in a society. There is nuance - which 90% of the comments on this post have missed. Most importantly, most commenters are not entering the discussion with an open mind. In which case there’s not point in debating anything. It’s a waste of time.