| ▲ | spwa4 5 hours ago | |
Proof? Okay: https://merics.org/en/report/increasing-challenge-obtaining-... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-16/china-is-... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-08-16/china-is-... https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2025/05/censored-statistics-de... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10439... https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/china-is-hiding-mo... https://www.economist.com/briefing/2024/09/05/the-chinese-au... https://www.socsci.uci.edu/newsevents/news/2024/2024-07-17-w... https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/17/health/covid-origins-who.... Standard communist playbook: as soon as something is embarrassing (like the youth unemployment rate in China), declare it a state secret. The fact that it's getting hard to find something they're not hiding is not a good sign. The list of things they're hiding is getting pretty damn long: internal trade statistics, housing sales, population numbers (first in the "ghost cities", then border regions, now all of China), disease statistics (they suddenly classified COVID statistics, now everything), unemployment rate (started with unemployed miners, then youth, now everything), immigration/emigration policies, economic growth, how they're treating various ethnic groups (Nepalese, Uyghurs, ...) A big question a lot of people are starting to ask: is the data the government itself is operating on still accurate? Because, of course, in Soviet Russia and other communist states it wasn't. Such states made very large, often disastrous, decisions based on fictitious data, so odds seem good the same is unfolding in China. | ||
| ▲ | hearsathought 4 hours ago | parent [-] | |
> Proof? Okay: It never fails. I knew someone would post a wall of links to compensate for the lack of actual evidence. And of course all these links are just repeating the same talking point. > Standard communist playbook: as soon as something is embarrassing (like the youth unemployment rate in China), declare it a state secret. T But I thought these "damn commie"s manipulate the data? I thought we couldn't trust the data they put out anyways? Nevermind why these commies would put out data to embarrass themselves? Why are you so upset about losing access to manipulate data? Oh, you mean the data that the "commies" put out are accurate? And you are upset they are no longer making accurate and unmanipulated data from you? > The list of things they're hiding is getting pretty damn long: internal trade statistics, housing sales, population numbers (first in the "ghost cities", then border regions, now all of China), What difference does it make? They are all untrustworhty "manipulated" data? This is the problem with you anti-china propagandists. One says the "commie stats" are manipulated and worthless? The other says "it isn't manipulated but these commies are hiding it". > Because, of course, in Soviet Russia and other communist states it wasn't. Which was readily apparent by anyone who visited the soviet states in the 70s/80s. Millions of people actually visit china every year. And many post videos of it on tiktok, youtube, etc. Even of uyghers. If china was on the path to a soviet style collapse, you'd see it in the cities, towns, etc. > A big question a lot of people are starting to ask: is the data the government itself is operating on still accurate? Is it a question? I thought it was all manipulated and unreliable data. > so odds seem good the same is unfolding in China. Then why are you crying about them hiding the bad data? You just regurgitated the same nonsense anti-china propaganda that's we've been seeing for 10+ years. By the way, what happened with the ugyhur genocide? Still going on? And what happened to the promised china collapse? We've been waiting for many years now. | ||