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nis0s 2 hours ago

A lot of aggrieved comments blaming US leadership, but nary a word about the leadership of countries which create conditions that people have to emigrate from.

Populations of most countries offshore the blame for the lack of economic opportunity or social conditions where they live. I don’t blame the common folk, it’s the leaders and elite of such places who are responsible for their countries relative success or failure.

dragontamer 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> but nary a word about the leadership of countries which create conditions that people have to emigrate from.

Because we in the US largely care about making our country better. And pulling the best and brightest out of other countries has historically been considered a good deal for us or even an explicit 'Brain Drain the Soviets' strategy.

This admin and the people in charge today have forgotten about this and now we are left with our multi decade system getting wrecked.

nis0s 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Except the U.S. right now is nothing like what the USSR was under the Soviets, at least not for people who are in the U.S. via proper and lawful immigration protocols. The bent towards Christian nationalism may covert the US into an unviable USSR-like environment for a majority of its population, including whites and Christians. But I don’t think that scenario is likely given the range of leadership available to the U.S. I guess it depends on how the next two years unfold, maybe I’ll stand corrected.

Regarding brain drains, why is it so bad if the best and most productive of another country stay in their home states, or go else where? The fact is that there are a lot of nations which experience relatively low rates of immigration, but are at the forefront of science and tech, such as China or Japan or Singapore. Maybe brain drains are not the main concern here, if anything the idea is a distraction.

verbify 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some people just emigrate without lack of economic opportunity or social conditions. I have a German friend living in Japan because he's curious about Japan (he previously lived in the UK).

sapphicsnail 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The US is responsible for the economic problems of many of those countries. To give an example, whether or not you agree with what the US is doing to Venezuela, all the sanctions have caused mass migrations out of that country and into ours.

DarkNova6 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The H-1B is a classification of non-immigrant visa in the United States that allows U.S. employers to hire foreign workers in specialty occupations, as well as fashion models and employees engaged in Department of Defense projects who meet certain conditions

This is not about emigration. Frankly, as a European I would find moving to the US a serious downgrade in living quality.

pessimizer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

With the ungodly level of poverty upper-class Indians are used to stepping over back at home, it's no wonder that there's no consideration given to working people here.

We hopefully have a different ethical structure. Extreme racists are largely a minority in the west, whereas birth naturally defining your life is simply common sense in some of the countries that we accept the most immigrants from. I'd be more inclined to accept people who are escaping that structure (like Mexicans, for example, who are running over the border instead of flying into six-figure jobs), but those who are coming here are from the class who have the most say in the conditions of the poor in their own countries.

The descendants of compradors, still winning, but playing the racist card because they know the US is still sensitive about what they did to black people, and how they never made up for it. Most of the immigrants I know are racist, and will explain why not being racist is stupid, at length.

throwaway7783 2 hours ago | parent [-]

>>those who are coming here are from the class who have the most say in the conditions of the poor in their own countries.

Wow, okay. How does this work? All such people actually rule those countries? Or their votes somehow counted more than others?