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abeppu 3 hours ago

48 hours would also have been crazy.

This should be a bill introduced in Congress, discussed in committee, voted on, and enacted with a date months in the future when it goes into effect, so that people, companies and government agencies can prepare and plan ... you know like an country with laws and procedures.

frankharv 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That argument went out the door when the last administration chose to open the borders.

We have laws against that. But they were ignored.

pinkmuffinere 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I agree that we should obey our laws. However, I don't think "they broke the rules, so I can too!" holds, and I feel it's obvious that it's wrong.

yibg 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The last administration did something you don't like, so this round let's be cruel to people that didn't have anything to do with it?

throwaway7783 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I really would like to understand what did last administration do to open the doors. Didn't they actually deport historically high number of people?

abeppu 13 minutes ago | parent [-]

I think technically, in terms of "removals" based on an immigration judge ordering it, Obama still has the record. For "repatriations" which includes "removals", "returns" (no order, can be voluntary), and Covid-19 health related "expulsions", Biden holds the record.

I think data availability has been poor during the Trump administration, but from public numbers that I could find for spring of this year, it's not clear that even with all the raids the Trump administration is actually deporting more people than prior administrations ... but perhaps the goal is to keep more people in detention.

https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/immigration-enforcem... https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/yearbook/2019/table3... https://usafacts.org/answers/how-many-people-were-deported-f...

jjulius 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

An eye for an eye make the whole world blind.

krapp 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The Biden administration didn't "open the borders." That isn't a thing that happened.