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sschueller 9 hours ago

The only positive is that fascism is an unstable state. It will eventually collapse as it runs out of a scapegoat. Fascism doesn't solve the problems of society so someone needs to be blamed for it to have continued support. Once you have removed all the low hanging fruit people will start infighting and eventually the whole thing falls apart.

SteveNuts 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sure but based on the history of the last 125 years or so, that only happens after tens of millions have died and entire countries are leveled. And that was done with… 125 year old technology.

mothballed 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If it devolves into a dictatorships it can stay stable for awhile. Look at Dubai, one of the richest places per capita with no real "rule of law" (only in theory) but stabilized through a ruthless theocratic dictatorship that has brought peace and prosperity in a region of the world where democracy (and indeed -- other dictatorships) has so often brought the people untold terror, violence, and suffering.

JumpCrisscross 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> that only happens after tens of millions have died and entire countries are leveled

That levelling, darkly, does solve the problem. Nazism ultimately turned Western Europe into an American protectorate. And under Pax Americana, it thrived. One can similarly point to Imperial Japan having laid the groundwork for the Asian miracle, at the cost of millions of lives.

Maybe fascism has a purpose: it lumps together a generation’s horrific and emotionally stunted and combusts them against an innocent population. That’s horrible. But it leaves better cinders than it came to.

(For the avoidance of doubt, I neither think fascism is good nor inevitable.)

grey-area 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

An awful lot of people die before it collapses, and even worse, a generation is corrupted.

TrainedMonkey 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sure the forces that bring down fascist states are still there, but now we also have surveillance technology that can be used to keep control of the populace.

cess11 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Last time one of the hard problems of fascism was that people weren't willing to do the amount of murder and surveillance required, and this time they're on the verge of murder bots that can do it instead and surveillance is already massively pervasive and penetrating.

While the then newfangled radio was a potent method of disseminating propaganda, today the tool chains for and scientific knowledge about how to efficiently 'manifacture consent', as it is sometimes called, are quite a bit more oppressive.