| ▲ | bwestergard 14 hours ago |
| "creating panic among many - particularly Indian passengers - who even chose to leave the aircraft" Are they are getting off the aircraft because they believe the "fee" will be required of their employment imminently, and that their employer will not pay it, and this will lead to their visa getting cancelled before they could return to the United States? |
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| ▲ | toast0 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| IMHO, it seems like there's a good chance of confusion and delay when reentering the US in the middle of this kind of change. It would be better to avoid that, if possible. And in the case that your visa does get canceled, it would be easier to fight that from in the US, and if necessary, to wind down your US household from inside the US as well. Everything gets a lot harder if you have to do it from outside the country. |
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| ▲ | hypeatei 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | > it would be easier to fight that from in the US Would it? Aren't ICE agents showing up to court hearings and deporting people? | | |
| ▲ | toast0 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | At least you could meet with your lawyers in person, during mutual daylight. Do you even have standing to sue from abroad about a visa revoked capriciously? | | | |
| ▲ | rwmj 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's all relative. |
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| ▲ | flurdy 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It seems for the moment they will only check for this new fee on entry at the borders. If the fee has been not paid entry will be denied from tonight. Hence, if you stay in the country nothing will change. And they can wait until this gets played out in the courts, media, congress etc. |
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| ▲ | 4ndrewl 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Or that, like the de minimus situation wrt post, there just is no process in place to pay the fee and you're left in a legal limbo, or worse. |
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| ▲ | bananapub 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It doesn’t seem very unclear - the president made up a policy it isn’t possible to comply with, since there is no way to actually pay the massive bribe, in addition to probably being illegal, but nonetheless CBP may start refusing entry to people in hours. |
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| ▲ | apwell23 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | why do you say its a bribe? where is actual money going? | | |
| ▲ | mothballed 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | To the state coffers where it is money laundered to friends of the political class via favored private enterprises that win contracts for things like building border walls, keeping databases on US citizens, or running detention facilities. | | |
| ▲ | Freedom2 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | Is there any evidence of this? Otherwise please don't post unsubstantiated rumors on this site, it's not what it was made for! | | |
| ▲ | mothballed 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Do you take contention with the part where I indicate the money paid goes into the state coffers? Or the part that money from the state coffers is then laundered to friends of the political class via favored private enterprises that win contracts? Let us be specific about the part that is the "unsubstantiated rumor", so that I can come up with "any evidence" which is a low bar to pass indeed. | | |
| ▲ | apwell23 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | you mean there isn't enough money in the coffers already for the 'laundering to friends' that have to create new schemes? |
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| ▲ | linohh 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Like many cleptocrats, DJT seems to think that money received by the federal government is somehow his. However I don't think bribe is the appropriate term, it's more of a shakedown. | |
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