| ▲ | jonathanstrange 8 hours ago |
| There was evidence of voting machine fraud, though. |
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| ▲ | djohnston 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Interesting… would you say the election was, erm, rigged? |
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| ▲ | lotsofpulp 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In almost every single jurisdiction? That would be an impressive fraud to pull off. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/06/us/politics/p... >More than 89 percent of counties in the United States shifted in favor of former President Donald J. Trump in the 2024 presidential election, according to a New York Times analysis of election results. |
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| ▲ | Arainach 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | >89 percent of counties Land doesn't vote. People vote. What percentage of the population live in those 89% of counties? | | | |
| ▲ | jacquesm 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | No, you don't need to do that in 'almost every single jurisdiction'. That's a strawman. | | |
| ▲ | lotsofpulp 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It would be quite the coincidence then for all the voting precincts to swing towards the same candidate as the fraud. I find it likelier that people’s preferences simply changed. | | |
| ▲ | jonathanstrange 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Possible but a simple software update can also do the trick. That's just a fact and the reason why no one should trust a democracy based on voting machines. Experts have been warning against voting machines for decades. | | |
| ▲ | lotsofpulp 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Do all the jurisdictions use the same software? It would surprise me if we are at that level of centralization, plus no discrepancies appeared between audited paper ballots and the software counts? | | |
| ▲ | jonathanstrange 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Why "all jurisdictions"? That's a strawman. You only need to target a few districts in swing states to secure a victory. | | |
| ▲ | lotsofpulp 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | …that is the point I am making. Which scenario is likelier: All 7 swing states went to Republicans due to fraud, and it just so happens that everywhere else also went more Republican. Or all 7 swing states went to Republicans because voters voted more Republican throughout the country? Note that not voting is the same as voting for the winning party. | |
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| ▲ | cyanydeez 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| even without fraud, republicans have gerry mandered enough states that they're silencing the public majority. |
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