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pavlov 9 hours ago

Have you ever worked for a large corporation? Do you think there’s an intranet website where you can just go click on the “Send $100k Wire Now” button?

It’s going to take a long time while Microsoft figures out if they will actually pay these fees and which budget it should come out of.

Meanwhile, if you didn’t return by Sunday, you’re locked out of the country and unable to show up for work which will result in your termination fairly soon.

trollbridge 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Employers have said these workers are critical and they can’t find any workers already in America to do these roles.

FAANG are by far the largest users of H1-B. They also have billions of dollars and access to excellent lawyers. They can pay up for this; an excellent employee is certainly worth more than $100k per year to them. Think of this more as a tax levied on some of America’s wealthiest businesses.

chatmasta 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The data is publicly available. Microsoft is the largest US employer of H1-B with about 5,000 H1-B workers. So we’re only talking about $500m. They could probably find that stashed in the basement of one of their offices.

Aurornis 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> FAANG are by far the largest users of H1-B.

The H1-B is used across many industries, not just tech.

Workaccount2 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think it's mostly targeted at these IT firms that are 75% H1-B doing help desk for $50k/yr.

more_corn 8 hours ago | parent [-]

So create a policy that specifically solves that. This is madness.

ericmay 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Meanwhile, if you didn’t return by Sunday, you’re locked out of the country and unable to show up for work which will result in your termination fairly soon.

I’m actually curious, have you worked at a large corporation before?

It would be atypical for the scenario you are describing to occur given that there has been a US government policy change that’s of no fault of the employee who is still eligible to work in the United States.

Folks aren’t going to be sitting around on Monday morning saying jeez Billy on the H1B visa didn’t show up to work today and we have no clue why, guess he is fired!

Within business units at this scale there are small, dedicated teams that manage contractors, vendor contracts and licenses, keep track of employees on visas, report that information for compliance purposes, etc, and they are almost certainly communicating with their employees who are currently out of the country to provide arrangements and additional details as things progress.

UncleMeat 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The issue is less "I guess he is fired."

The issue is "my kids are at home in the US and I can't get home to take care of them because of this sudden policy that nobody knows how to navigate."

ericmay 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure but I was responding to “they are fired” aspect.

Muromec 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Folks aren’t going to be sitting around on Monday morning saying jeez Billy on the H1B visa didn’t show up to work today and we have no clue why, guess he is fired!

I deeply suspect it will go both ways -- one Billy would be paid for, while the other will be fired for not being able to show up. Not every Billy is on the same good standing with the corp.

ericmay 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure but that’s just business as usual isn’t it?

Muromec 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, yes?

teeray 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Meanwhile, if you didn’t return by Sunday, you’re locked out of the country and unable to show up for work which will result in your termination fairly soon.

Remember too that this coincides with an RTO order for Puget Sound that kicks in roughly the same time.