> Uk has nukes of some kind, and there’s Germany

Are the U.K.'s nukes on an independent platform?

Germany's military has no ranged capability to speak of--not in the same league.

> Lots of military tradition there, and guns, jeeps and trucks don’t take much to make in quantity

They do take time. If, as I suspect, we're at the precipice of the normalisation of tacitcal nukes, I don't think it would be too difficult to suppress. Or maybe it would! (I'd hope it would.) Either way, stupid aftermath doesn't seem to figure into the calculus of either Putin or Trump.

Btw, I'm not making odds for a deal that works. Just a deal that happens. Germany didn't keep anything from M-R.

> the us isn’t well positioned to hold land. The navy and Air Force can only destroy.

Holding Canada, Iceland, Greenland and--at arms length, perhaps as a territory, perhaps as a sovereign nation in name only--the U.K. and Ireland wouldn't take a lot of manpower or coercing.

>the U.K. and Ireland wouldn't take a lot of manpower or coercing.

You don't know us if you think that.

Holding the blue states will take some effort.

> Are the U.K.'s nukes on an independent platform?

Yes.

> Either way, stupid aftermath doesn't seem to figure into the calculus of either Putin or Trump.

Maybe they can share the Nobel Peace Prize that the U.S. president so covets.