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alephnerd 4 days ago

Pretty much. All this did is now create a thousand talents program for India.

H1B visa abuse by consultancies and mass recruiters is a real issue, but this now incentivized companies like Google, Meta, Microsoft, Pfizer, Cheveron etc to expand their Indian offices.

Edit: can't reply

> Was there any reason for them not to? It's cheaper than H1B anyways.

Spending an additional $10-15k in visa filing fees isn't that big of a deal for an employer who's already paying around 25-35% in withholding and benefits, but at $100K that makes it enough that if you needed to sponsor 10 people on an H1B, you now hit the monetary amount to avail GCC tax rebates and subsidies in most of Eastern Europe and India, where they will give you an additional $10-20k in tax credits and subsidies per head.

Basically, opening a new office abroad just to save on $10-15k of filing fees per employees wasn't worth it, but now that it'll be $100k per employee, the math just shifted.

> Why is this parasitic organization allowed to incorporate?

VC now, not a director anymore. But help me find a new grad with 3-4 years of exploit development and OS internals experience in the US. I can't.

On the other hand, I can in Tel Aviv. There's a reason the entire cybersecurity industry has shifted outside the US.

Large sectors of the US tech scene just lack ANY domestic know-how.

red_rech 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

So you’re going to hire foreigners in the US or you’re going to ship the whole operation overseas. Why is this parasitic organization allowed to incorporate?

giantg2 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"...to expand their Indian offices."

Was there any reason for them not to? It's cheaper than H1B anyways.

bigfatkitten 4 days ago | parent [-]

Because being in roughly the same timezone as the people you’re managing is underrated.

giantg2 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is mostly just a benefit for mixed teams. If you have entire departments offshore, then you have less cross-zone interaction.

kelvinjps 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Does it matter for a company at the size of Google?

disgruntledphd2 3 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, as platform teams are generally colocated somewhere else.

_DeadFred_ 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

OK. But I'm not fighting against them for jobs here. I'm not fighting against H1Bs who are willing to put up with different shared housing situations than I am for housing here.

h1bnotfound 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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