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sschueller 3 days ago

Next they will let Elizabeth Holmes go and I doubt Elon will ever see the walls of a prison for the crimes he has committed. At least while this fascist government is in charge and Elon doesn't piss off trump in some way.

kristjansson 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Holmes

they're trying. https://theinventors.com / https://theranoslabs.com are up on billboards around LA with 'Elizabeth Holmes Innocent' marketing.

atombender 3 days ago | parent [-]

I don't know about "they". The billboards and the attempt to resurrect Theranos seems like a bizarro self-promotion stunt by a single guy named Ryan El-Hosseiny, who's been photoshopping himself into photos of Elizabeth Holmes, claiming the title of "CEO and Inventor", and insisting that he's known as "the Steve Jobs of medical labs" despite having no history in the medical industry.

kristjansson 2 days ago | parent [-]

yeah 'they' was a bit of a generalization. just pointing out that there's already weird stuff afoot with Holmes.

tim333 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But has Holmes got any money left?

terminalshort 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

What crimes would Elon ever see prison time for? And by crimes here I mean actual felony violations of criminal law that normally result in prison, not "crimes" that HN commenters typically accuse people of that are actually torts or sometimes just things they consider immoral.

fogzen 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

He likely violated the terms of his visa, which is a crime.

“I had to [stay in school]..otherwise I’d get kicked out of the country.” ... “since I already had my undergrad, I could..get an H1-B visa” (not correct, he had no degree in 1995, so he's already on record lying about many aspects of his visa and schooling situation)

"I was legally there, but I was meant to be doing student work," adding to The Post, "I was allowed to do work sort of supporting whatever." You cannot work "supporting whatever" on an F1, exceptions like OPT are restricted to specific programs. Musk has (more than once) admitted to violating the terms of his visa and working illegally.

> Derek Proudian, a board member for the Musks' former internet startup Zip2, which they founded in late 1995, told the Post, "Their immigration status was not what it should be for them to be legally employed running a company in the U.S.," adding, "We don't want our founder being deported."

Musk had no degree in 1995. And it sounds like he was on an F1. If those are both true he was working illegally.

Snopes has a lot more details https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/musk-undocumented-immigran...

tim333 2 days ago | parent [-]

>actual felony violations of criminal law that normally result in prison

Has anyone gone to prison for 30 year old visa irregularities? I'd say it's not normal.

mandeepj 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For starters, he manipulated Tesla stock many times and defrauded customers on the pretext of selling fully Self-driving cars. Also, how many deaths have been caused by that?

This is a big one, but was settled https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/18/business/tesla-black-worker-h...

terminalshort 3 days ago | parent [-]

> a Black female employee who claimed a manager at its Fremont, California, plant sometimes greeted workers by saying “welcome to the plantation” or “welcome to the slave house.”

Well that is extremely inappropriate, but it is neither a crime nor was it committed by Elon Musk.

As for your other claim is there ever an instance where Elon Musk claimed to sell fully self driving cars? Because I haven't heard it. When Tesla sells those cars it makes you sign a contract stating specifically that they aren't able to do that, and then on top of that puts in safety features that don't allow the software to even be active if the driver is not attentive.

margalabargala 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Illegal immigration and investor fraud would be two. Elon has told more lies in official investor communications than others have gone to prison for.