What happened is they fired tens of thousands of their workforce. They knee-capped themselves. Having people with experience and institutional knowledge is required. You can't just toss that out the windows and expect things to work.

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BeetleB 2 days ago | parent [-]

By any measure, Intel was bloated. All their competitors are doing a lot more with a lot fewer people.

Now whether they fired the right tens of thousands is another matter.

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snerbles 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> All their competitors are doing a lot more with a lot fewer people.

According to Wikipedia, for FY25:

Intel: 102,000 employees

AMD: 28,000 employees

Nvidia: 36,000 employees

I'm pretty sure the latter two have been growing headcount lately, and even then combined they still have fewer employees than Intel.

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AnotherGoodName 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You need to add tsmcs employees to the amd and nvidia counts since intel is a foundry. +82k puts it around equal.

Now intel isn’t doing as well on the chip design side as amd or nvidia nor as well on the fab side as tsmc but i suspect that’s on leadership thrashing constantly like it is more than anything else.

	▲	BeetleB 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, but TSMC does a ton more volume than Intel's fabs.

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tester756 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Intel (100k +-) should be compared with AMD (28k) + TSMC (84k)

	▲	nomel a day ago \| parent [-]
		Intel also uses TSMC [1] for ARC, since they can't compete. So, you need to add some large fraction of TSMC to intel, also. [1] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intel-will-keep-u...

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HPsquared 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Both statements can be true.