| ▲ | gonyanghn 2 days ago |
| This is what it has come to? This is artificial intelligence? Billions and billions of dollars spent to narrate a recipe? Something that can be written down on a piece of paper? |
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| ▲ | throwawayoldie 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| I have a copy of the classic "Joy Of Cooking" in the kitchen. It was a lot cheaper, works perfectly every time, and doesn't get ruined if (when) I spill foodstuffs on it. |
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| ▲ | gooob 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i always wonder why they choose the stupidest shit for these demos. like, to whom do they think they're advertising this? |
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| ▲ | Yizahi 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | To their peers, i.e. their golf billionaire buddies from Fortune-500. They talk with each other and I strongly suspect propagate a whole set of alternative reality ideas among themselves. Like this obsession on the voice activated and controlled everything. Billionaire CEOs probably find it very convenient to pretend to multitask constantly and make voice recordings and commands while doing other CEO tasks or during endless meetings. After all their human secretary can later verify information without taking his time. Meanwhile almost no one from my peer group or relatives uses voice activated anything really, no voice mails, no voice controls, no voice assistants. And I never see people on the streets doing that too. | | |
| ▲ | CaptainOfCoit 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Meanwhile almost no one from my peer group or relatives uses voice activated anything really, no voice mails, no voice controls, no voice assistants. And I never see people on the streets doing that too. Could also be that however your peer group uses things, isn't the only way that thing gets used? For example, voice messages seems more popular than texting around me right now, at least in Europe and Asia, where people even respond to my texts over Whatsapp and Telegram with voice messages instead. I constantly see people on the street listening and sending voice messages too, in all age ranges. I don't think any of those people would need an AI assistant to recite cooking recipes though, but "voice as interface" seems to be getting more popular as far as I can tell. | | |
| ▲ | danielbln 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Why you wouldn't just transcribe your message (which most keyboards and messengers support) instead of sending minutes worth of meandering audio full of "uhm" is beyond me. I use voice all the time (assistants, LLM, etc.) but voice messages can die in a fire. | | |
| ▲ | lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > Why you wouldn't just transcribe your message So, the obvious answer to me is that voice communications accurately include tone and inflection. But other than that, there are "edge cases" (I mean, they're more like "people") that make it more appealing, especially after Google made their keyboard transcription worse for the people who get the most use out if it (aforementioned "edge cases"). My dyslexic friend's experience with software transcriptions has changed recently. No longer can they say, "What time do I need to pick you up, question mark, I'm just leaving now, comma, so I might be a little late, period." and have it use the punctuation as specified. Now, it's LLM-powered and converts the speech without really letting the user choose the punctuation, except manually after it's been written out, which is difficult to impossible for both dyslexics and blind people. (As a side note, if a person is an "edge case", it's actually that person's every-time case.) | |
| ▲ | Wojtkie a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | I agree with you that voice messages can die in a fire. Send a text, or call. I do not want to listen to a voice message. |
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| ▲ | kolinko 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They don’t want to spend 30 min explaining domain knowledge required to understand a certain super specific case. Instead they show tech’s quality on a basic highest common denominator use case and allow people to extrapolate to their cases. Similarly car ads show people going from home to a store (or to mountains). You’re not asking there “but what if I want to go to a cinema with the car”. If it can go to a store, it can go to a cinema, or any other obscure place, as long as there is a similar road getting there. | | |
| ▲ | fluoridation 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | But those are things cars make sense for. When would I stand in my kitchen with a bunch of random ingredients strewn about the counter wondering what to make with them and conclude that an LLM would have a good answer? And what am I supposed to extrapolate from that example? I guess they were showing off that the system had good vision capabilities? Okay, but generative AIs are notoriously unreliable, unlike cars. Even if the demo had worked, it would tell me nothing about whether it would help me solve some random problem I could think up. A better analogy would be the first cars being advertised as being usable as ballast for airships. Irrelevant and non-representative of a car's actual usefulness. | |
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| ▲ | blitzar 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In their world this is what they think people do | |
| ▲ | sensanaty 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | The sociopaths pushing this kinda crap don't live the same lives you or I do. They have people they pay to make decisions for them, or they pay people to do shit like buy their weekly groceries for them or whatever other stupid crap they're trying to sell as a usecase for these useless AI tools. That's why all these demos are stupid shit like "Buy me plane tickets for my trip", despite the fact that 99.9% of people need very specific criteria out of their plane tickets and it's more easily done with currently available tools anyways. They literally think "What does a regular Joe need in their day-to-day?" and their out of touch answer is "I have all these ingredients but don't know what to cook" or whatever. It's obvious these people haven't spoken to anyone who isn't an ass-licking yesman in a looooong time. |
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| ▲ | shirro 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Hey, that recipe is worth trillions of dollars of investment, the destruction of the natural environment and the displacement of huge numbers of talented and skilled people. Show some respect for our billionaire class. |
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| ▲ | bamboozled 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | kolinko 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > A Korean tasting dressing. It's 2025, anyone living in a modern country should probably be able to make something that tastes Korean with just a small amount of effort... Lol are you serious? | | |
| ▲ | notyourwork 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Google exists. Finding recipes that give specific flavor profiles is not hard to find. | | |
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| ▲ | Tadpole9181 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | What an awful, condescending attitude. No, not "everyone living in a modern country" can make Korean food without a recipe. And tools that reduce the barrier for learning and acquiring new skills should be applauded. Almost half of Americans cannot cook today. And the number 1 cited reason is a lack of time. That said, I agree with the grandparent that this isn't really a "killer feature". Nor am I interested in the product. For so many reasons. | | |
| ▲ | bathtub365 2 days ago | parent [-] | | A real example that would have resonated was asking “what can I make with these ingredients?” No one is asking how to make a specific thing when they already know exactly what ingredients they need. If they knew what ingredients they needed, they probably already had the recipe. It feels out of touch at a basic level. |
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| ▲ | kolinko 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| People used exactly the same argument to negate a need for the internet and later for the mobile phones. https://www.newsweek.com/clifford-stoll-why-web-wont-be-nirv... |
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