I've been downvoted before for saying my take on this but...

Its because SE is a low class low power field. Its not respected by the people in charge at the overwhelming majority of companies. It has resisted standardizing like lawyers, doctors or even real estate agents. So there is little leverage a person in the field can push back with. Its mostly just seen as an annoyance to gaining/consolidating power for the power brokers on their way up the ladder.

That really is what computers/software are. Huge engines for orchestrating power that kings of old couldn't dream of.

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Jensson 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

> It has resisted standardizing like lawyers, doctors or even real estate agents.

You can't standardize a field that changes so fast, it takes decades to standardize a field and there has never been a point in time of software where two decades didn't completely changes the job.

	▲	citizenpaul 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		There is almost nothing new in CS since the 1970's. Even LLM's were invented at least theoretically back then.

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prmph 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is the absolute truth.

And the worse news is: it will never change. There are several things fundamental to SWE, at least the corporate, open source, and/or indie flavors, that ensure it will not be standardized.

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jnwatson 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> "SE is a low class low power field"

This is the difference with FAANGs. Software engineering is king. The inmates are running the asylum.

Google is at least 4x as efficient as other large companies I've worked for. Nearly every internal process that can possibly be automated is.

	▲	fragmede 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I was there for three years and you're totally right that everything's been automated, but also there are a large number of product level decisions that just don't make sense. They make financial sense, sure, but then that means the engineer has drank the MBA cool aid (or not enough of it), things get killed off, and they are no longer to be trusted around things that need proper love and care put into them. Promo packets though, sure. https://therussofirm.com/man-dies-after-following-google-map... It's hard to read that as a human, though, and not want to build a system that lets people update bad map data? Which there used to be, but then yeah. So yeah, the inmmates (engineers) used to run the asylum (Google), but then a group of fucking psychopaths (DoubleClick) got added to the asylum, got given meth (ad money) and shits fucking unhinged.