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197 points by HieronymusBosch 2 days ago | 141 comments
pogue 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

This sounds an awful lot like Microsoft's Recall, only implemented in the browser.

Granted, there have been a lot of times I have trouble finding a website in my history, open tabs or even bookmarks, so I could potentially see how that might be advantageous as long as I was in a situation where I had a second browser for "non-work" related tasks, or this was strictly prohibited in in-private mode.

>4. Find webpages you previously visited

>For those frustrating instances when you want to jump back into a past project but don’t want to scroll through your history to find an important website you previously visited, soon you’ll be able to use Gemini in Chrome to recall it for you. Once launched, you can try prompts like “what was the website that I saw the walnut desk on last week?” or “what was that blog I read on back to school shopping?”

As for their "agentic browsing assistant", I don't have much trouble adding stuff to my shopping cart or other minor tasks. I'm still waiting on that 'Google Duplex' [1] feature they announced years ago that claimed Google would make phone calls for me to make appointments and etc. Make a doctor's appointment? Dispute a charge on my bill? That's what I want.

[1] https://youtu.be/D5VN56jQMWM

magicalist 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Granted, there have been a lot of times I have trouble finding a website in my history, open tabs or even bookmarks, so I could potentially see how that might be advantageous as long as I was in a situation where I had a second browser for "non-work" related tasks, or this was strictly prohibited in in-private mode.

Yeah, this seems like it would be super helpful, and would work really well with a smaller local only model since it doesn't need to generate nice prose about the results or whatever. Until they keep the data strictly local, though, yes, I'm keeping it off too.

Weirdly, from their help page[1] they mention needing to "Have a high performance computer" as a requirement, and that

> When you turn on "History search, powered by AI," in addition to the page title and URL, the page contents of the website you browse at that time are stored locally.

and that the contents are even encrypted at rest, which makes you start to think they did it the right way, but then, no:

> When you use History search, powered by AI, your searches, generated answers, best matches, and their page contents are sent to Google. This information is used in accordance with the Google Privacy Policy to improve this feature, which includes generative model research and machine learning technologies

They don't outright say it anywhere, but it seems like the implication might be that this is a strictly local only model running (Nano), but then they ruin it by sending the history search results and all the page contents of those results to google so they can use that to improve their models?

Why why why. Looking at the preference in Canary, it's just on/off. No "on, but don't send my search history and the contents of pages I've seen to google".

> I'm still waiting on that 'Google Duplex'

FWIW this has been shipping for a long time. Try doing a reservation through google maps. If there's not open table support or whatever, it'll make the phone call for you.

[1] https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/15305774

pogue 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Weirdly, from their help page[1] they mention needing to "Have a high performance computer" as a requirement, and that

>> When you turn on "History search, powered by AI," in addition to the page title and URL, the page contents of the website you browse at that time are stored locally.

> and that the contents are even encrypted at rest, which makes you start to think they did it the right way, but then, no

AI is like a beast that has to be continuously fed forever to keep growing, and of course Google knows this. So, they're always going to take your data so they can feed their beast to try and stay, at least abreast, if not ahead of the competition.

I'm sure Google is also getting the message from publishers that they're getting sick of having their websites scrapped by GoogleBot only for those results to wind up in the AI Summary & not lead to any actual traffic.

So, what could Google do? What if they made everyone who ran Chrome scrape that data for them vicariously just through normal browsing? Not only that, what if in addition to having them scrape that data, but to also process it locally on your computer to save on cloud computing costs?

Just a theory... ;)

> FWIW this has been shipping for a long time. Try doing a reservation through google maps. If there's not open table support or whatever, it'll make the phone call for you.

That's cool about placing the call. Does it actually talk to the person on the other end, set up times & all that kind of stuff like they showed in the demo?

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Scene_Cast2 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I find that Chrome has a fairly crippled history by default (worse than any other browser I've ever used). It's so bad that I ended up installing a history extension. Works much better.

pogue 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Which one?

I mostly have trouble keeping too many browser tabs open on mobile. Granted, I use Brave & it now organizes closed tabs. On desktop, it has a similar Ai feature for tab management to the one Google described, but it's still not great.

I'd honestly appreciate some kind of AI tab management, history/bookmarks saving, summarizing & organizing that would put my old tabs to some kind of reading list that would remind me what I never closed down the line, archive the links I visited & my bookmarks incase of linkrot they would still be saved. Make sure if I was writing a comment on Reddit or similar site, saved it as a draft, etc, etc. That kind of "Smart" browser management system, that I could preferably run myself or had some privacy guarantees (for whatever they're worth) would definitely something I'd consider paying for.

Scene_Cast2 19 hours ago | parent [-]

I use History Trends Unlimited. Works decently well for my use cases.

bobbylarrybobby 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Of course! If you could easily find sites in your history, you wouldn't have to use google search to find them again.

gowld 2 days ago | parent [-]

Missing an opportunity to put ads in History.

nashashmi 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Did you know that chrome only has three months of history? Same with edge. Only Firefox still gives like two years if not more.

If you cleared the history/cache, the browser is spiffy.

xnx 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> As for their "agentic browsing assistant", I don't have much trouble adding stuff to my shopping cart or other minor tasks.

It looks like it is capable of more complex tasks than that including things like making a comparison table of products based on your criteria.

To extend the grocery example, it would be impressive if it could building a shopping cart and multiple stores so you can chose the one with the best total price/availability.

pogue 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah, if it did that kind of thing, it could definitely be a selling point.

Incidentally, I've been doing something similar in Mistral's Le Chat. I went down a rabbit hole to see if it could help me with my skincare routine, and now I've gotten to a point where I'll have it OCR transcribe lists of ingredients on the sides of packaging to see if it's compatible for me, and if not, it gives me product recommendations for alternatives, suggestions on cheaper products & it'll crawl the web to do so. While it won't make me lists or do price comparisons across stores & things like that, what it offers has been incredibly helpful.

htrp 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

We agree that was completely faked and eventually got killed by legal?

magicalist 2 days ago | parent [-]

Recall shipped in April. You just have to have a CPU with support for it, which isn't many.

wrs 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is astonishing that the word “privacy” appears zero times in this announcement. There have been repeated controversies over exactly how Google sees just the URL I visit. Now they want to see the entire contents of multiple browser tabs?

janalsncm 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You are right about the omnibox changes.

But the security enhancements appear to be using Gemini nano which can run on device. They kind of buried that detail though.

https://store.google.com/intl/en/ideas/articles/gemini-nano-...

simonw 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yikes! Given the inherent threat of prompt injection, using the weakest available version of Gemini seems like a particularly bad idea.

Not that even the strongest models are 100% effective at spotting prompt injection attacks, but they have way more of a fighting chance than Gemini nano does.

tadfisher 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You could contort the threat model such that prompt injection is something to worry about with a local model operating on local data and serving local results, sure.

BryantD 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think the "local results" assumption is not completely accurate. This line: "You tell Gemini in Chrome what you want to get done, and it acts on web pages on your behalf, while you focus on other things" implies that the local agent will perform in-browser actions, which in theory enables data exfiltration.

tadfisher 2 days ago | parent [-]

This iteration of Gemini doesn't perform in-browser actions, but they did announce they'll ship an agent later.

BryantD 2 days ago | parent [-]

Yes. I agree that many of the announced and currently shipping features should be just fine from a security perspective with only a local agent.

simonw 2 days ago | parent [-]

Running an LLM locally makes no difference at all to the threat of malicious instructions that make it into the model causing unwanted actions or exfiltrating data.

If anything a local LLM is more likely to have those problems because it's not as capable at detecting malicious tricks as a larger model.

tadfisher 2 days ago | parent [-]

This is the MCP problem, essentially, and the solution is the same: the user should review and approve specific actions before they are taken.

Of course there will probably be a setting to auto-approve everything...

gruez 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

what if there's a prompt injection in some random web page that you visited?

senordevnyc 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hopefully they have it just returning a simple boolean result for whether page is suspicious, and no tool calling.

janalsncm 2 days ago | parent [-]

If I had a tool which could determine whether a page was suspicious, why would I need an LLM to call it?

janalsncm 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

No system is 100% foolproof. If the baseline is “all malicious content gets through” and this method reduces it by 95% but that last 5% is using some sophisticated prompt injection, that’s not a “yikes” that’s a major win.

At a technical level the risk isn’t from the size of the model but the fact that it is open weight and anyone can use it to create an adversarial payload.

simonw 2 days ago | parent [-]

I disagree. In software security 95% is not a win - it's an invitation for users to trust a system that they shouldn't be trusting.

wrs 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

What’s really bugging me is they didn’t think it was interesting to even touch on that point in the big announcement. Contrast Apple making a big deal about private cloud compute before it even really does anything.

M4v3R 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah it’s insane they’ve totally ignored the privacy issue. Either they’re doing everything on device, which I doubt, or this is the biggest privacy disaster ever waiting to happen.

nashashmi 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Privacy is dead for a company that cares to join the trillion dollar club where data is the new oil.

Long live private ecosystems

reaperducer a day ago | parent | prev [-]

It is astonishing that the word “privacy” appears zero times in this announcement. There have been repeated controversies over exactly how Google sees just the URL I visit. Now they want to see the entire contents of multiple browser tabs?

And yet my healthcare company's IT department insists everyone only use Chrome on work computers.

I've been bringing up the HIPAA implications of that for years, but people just look at me like I asked the dog to do algebra. All the IT department cares about is that Chrome is free.

thw_9a83c 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sometimes I wish companies would stop forcing AI features down our throats and putting them just everywhere. At least I hope I can properly disable all of this. I don't need an AI agent scanning everything behind my back.

gspencley 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

AI is just the current incarnation of the hype train cycle.

I've never been a big fan of smart phones and I remember in the early 2010s the "mobile revolution" was in full tilt and it even impacted the Linux experience. I ended up switching from Ubuntu to Mint because they went all in on "mobile + touch-screens are the future!" and released this god awful UI update that was reminiscent of Windows 8.

We need business to drive innovation ... but there is bad with the good (and vice versa - we shouldn't forget that either). When something gets "hot" the business world will always go all in on the trend and "force" it down everyone's throats. It's driven partly by fear: "If I don't offer this to my customers, my competitors will and I will fail." The rest is the normal pursuit of profit, which isn't a bad thing IMO but it means there's a lot of: "There's a pie here and if we don't get our slice someone else will."

mrcwinn 2 days ago | parent [-]

Somehow saying AI is a hype train, not liking smart phones, and putting mobile revolution "in quotes" all seem of one coherent piece together.

I can take the point that some AI features are oversold or under-considered, but suggesting that these new technologies are not driving business innovation is just completely indefensible to the point that the argument is absurd on its face.

gspencley a day ago | parent [-]

> but suggesting that these new technologies are not driving business innovation

How did you take that away from my post?

AI can provide genuine value and also be a hype train. The two concepts are not mutually exclusive.

I put "mobile revolution" in quotes because I was referring to what it was being called at the time, in the context of describing how said "revolution" was affecting me at a time when I had no interest in mobile computing or features. I was relating to the parent who has little to no interest in AI features and wishes that companies would stop trying to "force" it on them.

At no point did I even come close to suggesting that there is no value or innovation to be found there. My last paragraph even directly stated the opposite.

Are you trolling?

Nzen 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It looks like [0] access to gemini will only be for subscribers, given that it costs them money. This is, "of course", distinct from ai mode [1] in google search that happens from the address bar in chrome. The first video implies that the difference involves throwing the current web page into the query as context so someone can ask "is this recipe gluten-free?" on a recipe webpage.

[0] https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-app-updates-io-20...

[1] https://blog.google/products/search/google-search-ai-mode-up...

pjmlp 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If it was only that, and what about forcing use of AI in OKRs for employee evaluation?

WhereIsTheTruth 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Just use chromium

fsflover 2 days ago | parent [-]

Or, better, Firefox.

abdullahkhalids 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Firefox has had AI chatbot integration in its sidebar since 133 [1] (Currently we are on 143). Fortunately, you have to sign in manually into the relevant service. I haven't tried it so don't know what happens next.

[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ai-chatbot

collinfunk 2 days ago | parent [-]

You can also hide it in the sidebar. I did that and forgot it existed for the most part.

braebo a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Or better yet, Brave!

fsflover a day ago | parent [-]

Which relies on Google-controlled codebase?

andrew_eu 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've used probably 15 or 20 web browsers in my lifetime and all of them had the same barely searchable table of URLs as their only history view. Why couldn't we have full text search of the pages, or a view that reflects tab histories as some kind of graph, or UIs that support any kind of sorting? Instead it's 2025 and the solution is to attach an LLM slot machine to the front and drive engagement.

I'd be very open to any Firefox extension suggestions (or standalone applications that can consume a Firefox history) that makes it more searchable. I don't often need to search my browser history, but when I do the answer is rarely easy to find.

All of the other features look like a high potential for abuse, but with lots of glitz to make it seem essential to laymen.

bananaflag 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The Firefox Awesome Bar, since spring of 2008, has been quite better than anything else, you could search any fragment of the page title and the results showed up by frecency. Curiously, Chrome's omnibox came out later that year and is still worse.

rdsubhas 2 days ago | parent [-]

There were many discussions about this in HN too, and the general conclusion was Google wanted to force more Google searches, and the large general users of Chrome were fine with it.

kristopolous 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

or when you go to chrome's history and it just lists the title of the page followed by simply the domain. It's like "some designer thought the pages feng shui wasn't in alignment and now the useful stuff is gone."

I have to assume they just hire artists that have never used a computer to make UX decisions and act as product dictators.

It's either that or empiricism by idiots: "We made the feature take 5x more time to use and got a 5x increase in engagement! Won't my boss be proud!?"

smilliken 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

https://histre.com does full text search on browser history

cons0le 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't want any of this crap. We need to push for the right to opt out of AI features. All of this garbage should be opt in.

m4rtink 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Rather, this should be opt-in from the start with serious disclaimers what it does and what it has access to.

j_timberlake a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's been like 18 months of Google saying they're putting genAI into all their services, it's 100% your fault if this is a surprise for you.

"We need to push for the right to opt out of AI features."

You've had access to Firefox for over 20 years.

nashashmi 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is like the rug is pulled beneath our feet. When I was in college I could get a handle of what stuff is worth sharing and what isn’t. Now all of my data from before has become a liability.

salomonk_mur 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You don't want automatic browsing of tedious tasks? I really do.

cons0le 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Not if it's not local. I don't want my browser to be an automated snitch for palantir

mort96 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Automating tedious tasks is great, as long as it's reliable. We know how to build reliable integrations and reliable automations. Making chat bots a page and click buttons it thinks will do the right thing is never gonna be reliable.

robofanatic 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I certainly don’t want AI to buy groceries for me while I’m “busy” doing something else.

adrianmonk 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I wouldn't mind help with grocery orders. I like to check which apples are on special and maybe buy a different variety from normal depending on the price.

My grocery store makes this really tedious because they don't have a feature to sort by price per pound. So I have a stupid ritual where I ctrl-F "($0." and repeatedly ctrl-G to see all the apples under $1/pound. Then I do it again with ctrl-F "($1." to see the ones in the $1-$2/pound price range. And there are several other products with similar annoying processes.

If an AI could just do that for me, it would save me time. I don't actually think present-day AI would do it reliably enough, but the concept sounds fine.

robofanatic 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I wonder how the economics will work for this? How will the AI service providers make money off of it?

reaperducer a day ago | parent | prev [-]

My grocery store makes this really tedious because they don't have a feature to sort by price per pound. So I have a stupid ritual where I ctrl-F "($0." and repeatedly ctrl-G to see all the apples under $1/pound. Then I do it again with ctrl-F "($1." to see the ones in the $1-$2/pound price range. And there are several other products with similar annoying processes.

If an AI could just do that for me, it would save me time.

I just look at the flyers that come in the Sunday newspaper. Problem solved in under 30 seconds with near-zero effort.

Cheaper than an AI subscription, too.

smileysteve 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's like using Alexa to shop, or when an Amazon ad comes on it and saves to the cart, only your order has a delivery cost and it's perishable

reaperducer a day ago | parent [-]

Reminds me of the one-button Amazon magnets that you'd stick to the refrigerator.

Press the "Gatorade" button, and Gatorade shows up at the front door the next day. Except that it might cost you $2.49, or it might cost $12.88. There was no way of knowing beforehand.

(Those things were awesome tech, BTW. You'd program it with your phone via the equivalent of an acoustic modem.)

brazukadev 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

like what, reading & commenting on HN?

donkeylazy456 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

only when im in need.

kixiQu 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can I block it as a site host? (Please don't respond about how I shouldn't want to and isn't it just like some other usecase that I'd obviously want not to block)

zamadatix 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think that depends on what you mean by "block it as a site host".

kixiQu 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> You can now ask questions about the entire page you’re on right from the omnibox. Chrome can suggest relevant questions based on the context of the page to help you kickstart your search. You'll get a helpful AI Overview from Search right alongside the page, with the ability to ask follow-up questions in AI Mode, so you can get helpful information without leaving the page.

I've done the normal things to exclude my site from search. I would like this to not run on my site either.

simonw 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anthropic's "Claude for Chrome" pilot from a few weeks back spent most of the announcement article talking about security and threats from prompt injection: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-for-chrome

This announcement from Chrome themselves hardly mentions that at all.

tadfisher 2 days ago | parent [-]

That's because Claude can interact with web pages, potentially exfiltrating data. This Gemini integration apparently cannot.

simonw 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

From the linked post:

> In the coming months, we’ll be introducing agentic capabilities to Gemini in Chrome. These will let Gemini in Chrome handle those tedious tasks that take up so much of your time, like booking a haircut or ordering your weekly groceries.

tadfisher 2 days ago | parent [-]

Then let's put down the megaphone until that announcement?

M4v3R 2 days ago | parent [-]

It will be too late when it happens, cat will already be out of the bag.

azinman2 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn’t that what they’re promising with the agent?

reclusive-sky 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some of these features would be nice to have, but I'm not sure I even want my browser to have these capabilities unless there is a mechanism to keep it all local. This is a monumental change to the amount of user data Google can collect via Chrome.

thw_9a83c 2 days ago | parent [-]

> ...unless there is a mechanism to keep it all local

I'm not sure the Google is a trustworthy party [0] to believe when they give you some hard-to-find option to keep data local and not use it for user profiling and ad targeting. Google is essentially a data mining business. Some opportunities are simply hard for them to resist.

[0]: <https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/google-s...>

ugh123 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Taking a quick test spin. Seems to be enabled (on mac) by the existing "Gemini in Chrome" extension but requires a Chrome update. Which has a global shortcut (across all mac apps) of "Ctrl+g" (this can be changed). The additional AI features seem to come from the tab content's integration into the Gemini console (previously (I believe) the Gemini extension was merely a thin console to the Gemini service)).

The direct tab integration works by first showing the Gemini console (ctrl-g or Gemini icon in the mac system tray) where there is then a 'Share current page' icon below the text view.

This adds a blue border around the chrome window indicating the current page can be shared with chrome. It's not clear, but I believe the page content is only shared once a prompt is made intending to use the page's content. However, the share-enablement remains enabled for all tabs (all tab windows will have the blue border) until turned off in the Gemini consol. Again, it's not clear if just merely browsing these tabs will automatically share that content with Google.

The Gemini integration does not perform actions (can't ask it to do stuff directly with the site's content (navigate, click buttons, etc).

But direct summarization works well (try it on an HN comment page or news article).

Overall, I like this feature as long as I understand what and when things are being shared and ability to turn off easily.

the_snooze 2 days ago | parent [-]

>It's not clear, but I believe the page content is only shared once a prompt is made intending to use the page's content.

If it's only processing page content as the user requests it, then how would feature 4 "Find webpages you previously visited" work? Seems like it would need to process everything in order to enable prompt-based content recall.

zamadatix 2 days ago | parent [-]

The article seems to say and show that once you prompt it searches your history by page titles and can then dig deeper into the top hits. The permissions in Chrome seem to agree with this:

> History search, powered by AI Use everyday language to search your browsing history and find sites you visited. You can also ask questions and get answers based on your browsing history.

> When you search browsing history, your history searches, the page content of best matches, and generated model outputs are sent to Google

It's also worth noting enabling history awareness is a separate toggle from having Gemini enabled, and it doesn't seem to be able to answer anything about history when I turn it off. Sharing the currently open pages also seems to be a separate permissions toggle from either of these.

iruoy 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Funny how this announcement comes days after Google learned that it didn't need to sell Chrome

derefr 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Gemini in Chrome can now work across multiple tabs, so you can quickly compare and summarize information across multiple websites to find what you need.

I noticed the other day that my own Chrome browser had begun doing something almost-but-not-quite like this, specifically in the context of browser-chrome-level search autocomplete.

Typing in the omnibar now seems to offer completion suggestions based on (seemingly) 1. feeding a fulltext extract of all my open tabs into a RAG; 2. doing a search of that RAG using the completion prefix as the query; and then 3. feeding the matched text-chunks to a local (Gemini Nano?) auto-completion suggestion model.

So if I have a tab open somewhere talking about e.g. what type of plants would grow well on a north-facing balcony in Vancouver, and then open a new tab and type "trellace " into the omnibox — then it'll suggest completions seemingly coming specifically from "ideas" it got by reading that open tab. Close the other tab, and those suggestions disappear.

(This might just be an experiment that was pushed to me, though I couldn't find anything specifically referencing it in chrome://flags.)

gl-prod 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh, look a wild Microsoft Recall appears, sure I want the AI to know my browser history and what I do on the web

bicepjai 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>>> And when it comes to a compromised password, Chrome warns me that my password got hacked and offers to change it for me. All I have to do is click once and that's it. I'm done

Do you folks hear yourself ? You want to change my password without me involving it other than clicking ?

jackdoe 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I suggest the people working on those features watch Neil Postman's "The Surrender of Culture to Technology": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlrv7DIHllE

Part of me is actually excited for the acceleration of the end of the web, I even wrote https://punkx.org/jackdoe/zero.txt few days ago in frustration.

The sooner it ends the better.

I really don't want to see "summarization" tokens of other people's tokens.

cons0le 2 days ago | parent [-]

Great writing, and great website. Text based pages like this are superior in every way for not wasting time

andrei_says_ 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How does one disable this feature?

christophilus 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

By installing LibreWolf.

rogerbinns 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apparently using Linux does the trick too. I have no idea what technical limitation exists to prevent the code from working on Linux.

zamadatix 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Settings -> AI Innovations

There are several toggles there. I also had to click an agree button the first time I used it.

shadowgovt 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Honestl, agentic browsing on grocery sites would be pretty great... But mostly because grocery sites have some of the worst UX in existence.

lawlessone 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Combat more sophisticated scams with Gemini Nano

Fantastic, Googles AI will be fighting to stop the scams Googles advertising promotes to me...

dmix 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That agentic stuff is going to be a big deal. Probably the most interesting part of LLMs besides coding. Assuming it works well

jstummbillig 2 days ago | parent [-]

The interesting part about this variant is, that it's actually happening in my browser. I can't see how else this is going to happen, for various real world reasons. This feels actually tangible and potentially useful. With ChatGPT I am just confused about when/why I would press "Agent".

penguin_booze 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's no better time to switch to Firefox: http://getfirefox.com/.

Until FF pulls a dick move, at which point we sell all our possessions and go live in the mountains.

liquid_thyme 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A lot of these new AI features can be helpful as long as the users' control the data. Is there an alternate world where Google might become the good guy here? In this world, as might be expected, the company making the worlds best spyware, wants to expand its spying.

xg15 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When the webpage AI argues with the browser AI, which argues with the OS AI which argues with the on-chip mainboard, CPU and GPU AIs, while the monitor AIs frantically try to make notes and the smarthome AI watches all of it and can only shake its metaphorical head.

tim333 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The compromised password thing sounds quite handy for me. According to Google's password manager I have 139 compromised passwords and 357 reused passwords. They are mostly junk sites like commenting on the Croydon Advertiser or some such but even so being able to update them with one click would be nice.

ruralfam 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not a comment re: AI in Chrome. I did click into the video to hopefully get an understanding of the features,. but sadly did not. Sorta got an idea, but the jump cuts, super-quick overviews, trying to identify everyone speaking, etc. E.g. ...something about tabs... ...used to take 20 minutes, now seconds... ...working with OTHER Google products (WTH)... Hey Google, make a simpler, more accessible video that is "just the facts mam". Dozens of jump cuts in a few minutes is disconcerting, and may prove dangerous to some.

tills13 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I cannot stress how much I don't want this.

everdrive 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does anyone know if Chromium is spared of these features?

ugh123 2 days ago | parent [-]

If built from source, likely yes. https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/

bflesch 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've just hard-pinned chrome v138 so ublock origin keeps working, so happy to hear it is also saving me from the AI features.

mh- 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Any tips on doing this on mac? I googled (ha) for a few minutes but couldn't find a straightforward answer.

zamadatix 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

138 already had AI shovelware in it, but at least you're avoiding more.

Btw if you launch with --disablefeatures=ExtensionManifestV2Unsupported,ExtensionManifestV2Disabled you can squeeze a few more versions out https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/discussions/29... as CLI based flags tend to live much longer than the GUI flags.

urbandw311er 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would sooner stick pins in my eyes than trust Google with unfettered read access to my browser tabs.

selectnull 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That reminds me to donate to Ladybird.

keyboardJones 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Very interested to see how well the agentic features work compared to ChatGPT’s cloud version. At the very least, I imagine bot detection/prevention (I.e., CAPTCHA) will be less of issue with Google’s strategy since the browser’s fingerprint will differ Chrome user to Chrome user.

jerrygoyal 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

if anyone wants a lightweight alternative I built an AI chrome extension (<1MB) that helps you fix grammar and improve writing wherever you write, draft emails on Gmail, reply to messages on LinkedIn etc.

All SOTA models are supported and you can use your own API key :)

https://jetwriter.ai

Citizen_Lame a day ago | parent [-]

You should try using it yourself, instead of spamming.

jari_mustonen 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So they integrate Gemini to summarize open web pages and consolidate all your open tabs into summaries. (Open lot's of pages, then summarize them all.) You can search your history with natural language and type Gemini queries directly into the address bar.

This will give them a cognitive profile of you: reading comprehension, decision-making patterns, knowledge gaps, etc.

Scary.

vorticalbox 2 days ago | parent [-]

Stack that with how you write (drive, emails, everything you post on the internet) to gain a writing fingerprint too.

I can imagine a bad actor getting hold of this putting it into a LLM given all this how would I manipulate this person to do x,y,z.

picardo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Last time I checked the context window for the embedded Gemini Nano was 1024 tokens. I hope they have reconsidered that limitation.

cryptozeus 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why as user I should get excited for ai features? Why are they selling ai so much, show me what it solves ? Nothing

neves 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My favorite Gemini feature is pasting an url with cultural events and say: add these events to my calendar.

Also works with images

akomtu 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

More AI spyware running on user devices?

dmix 2 days ago | parent [-]

They dont need LLMs to spy on you. Their ad network and google analytics is already everywhere on the internet and mobile.

akomtu 2 days ago | parent [-]

Nearly half of their users use ad blockers. The AI spyware, on the other hand, bypasses ad blockers and can answer questions like "what was the user up to on Sep 18?" These short summaries will be carefully kept in database, and in a few years Google will have a nearly perfect cognitive model of all their users. The value of such data is hard to measure. Every big advertiser or a tyrant would sell their soul to understand how to manipulate their populace better. You can't have this with today's ad networks.

croes 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does Google provide a version without AI?

For people who don’t want AI in their browser.

hellcow 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Another showcase of Google using their dominant market position for Chrome to gain advantage in other markets, like AI agents.

m4r71n 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I tend to agree. If this was built as a true browser enhancement, it would allow you to select the model of your choice or even plug it into a locally running LLM. This being exclusive to Gemini just juices up their usage numbers to make their investments more justifiable. I wonder if Firefox will ever introduce any similar features.

rambojohnson 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> I wonder if Firefox will ever introduce any similar features.

I hope they never do. Nobody’s asking to have AI shoved down their throats, spying on them and profiling everything they do.

pogue 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Firefox does have that and you can choose from different models or even a local one (last time I checked)!

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ai-chatbot

m4r71n 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Not quite the same thing. Google's features seem to give the model the ability to control the browser, not just act upon the text within a given web page.

glenstein 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Is it integrated into the browser at all or is it basically a browser tab?

pogue 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If only there was some law that prohibited monopolistic practices like these that could prevent or stop something like that from happening that could be enforced by a branch of the government... *sigh* just a utopian pipe dream, I suppose

scrollop 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They're all wearing shades of green.

whywhywhywhy 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Calling it now, these features wont work with an adblocker enabled within 6 months.

Not that I asked for any of this anyway.

etothepii 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And yet even on the page about Chrome's new AI assistant is a cookie pop-up ...

jimjimjim 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, this sounds terrible. Asking the AI "what was the site where i saw a walnut desk" would mean that enough data has to be stored (locally but how long until there is a pro version where it stored and processed centrally). Isn't that data storage a security nightmare?

wiredpancake 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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ActionHank 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This will surely bring the users back after killing adblockers /s

deckar01 2 days ago | parent [-]

The AI mode does seem to be free of ads. The grocery shopping use case seems ridiculous, yet is telling. What kind of compensation might they get for agents putting promoted products in your cart?

cwillu 2 days ago | parent [-]

..for now. Just like last time.

bapak 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you kidding me!? We are living in the future and the first thing we (have to) worry about is that something will be used against us.

I really want the 2008 Google where everything they made was welcomed and not hated on sight.

Agentic browser? This. is. what. I. want.

Asking the browser about "that specific thing I might have seen last week?" Sign me the f up!

I'm not being sarcastic, I really wish I could have all of this and not having to worry about antagonistic companies and governments.

thehamkercat 2 days ago | parent [-]

are you sure that you're not being sarcastic?

bapak 2 days ago | parent [-]

It seems you failed to read my comment.

You don't want your computer to help you with your daily tasks?

xnx 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agentic browsing in Chrome is a really big deal. For the first time in 30 years the "user agent" will really act like one instead of being a mere browser.

In 10 years it will be passé to use the web in real time vs. having an agent acting on your behalf and distilling the information you want.

lawlessone 2 days ago | parent [-]

exactly, why read books or watch movies when i can just have my personal AI summarize them.

This will open up a future of webpages , sites and services exclusively made for our bots to read and transcribe to us.

HardCodedBias 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems reasonable TBH.

I don't know the future of browsers given the trends in AI, but it seems fine to add an opt in ability to browsers to allow an LLM to access the current (or a set) of tabs. If it works it would reduce the amount of copy-paste, which seems like a good thing.

It's hardly a killer feature. I'm still going to use chatgpt (and gemini) a tremendous amount.

M4v3R 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This seems huge to me. As in: the initial release of Google Chrome huge. I don’t know if they can really pull off things they showed but if they do I’m sure this will be a massive success. Which is pretty sad considering the privacy implications for this. Imagine how much more data they will have on everyone. Scary.

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moralestapia 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

>As in: the initial release of Google Chrome huge.

Nope, not even 0.01% of that.