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donatj 5 days ago

One of my best friends died 12 years ago in our late 20s. I know he is dead, and yet a couple times a month I think, "Oh, I haven't talked to him in a while, I should text him!" before my logical brain kicks in and lets me know the deal.

There is a dumb part of me that wants to believe, "Oh, he probably faked his death to get out of debt." He was such a schemer, if anyone would, he would. It was an open casket funeral. I know he is dead.

It's not a disorder. I just have mental pathways built that lead to a person who was integral to my life for many years, a person who does not exist on this plane anymore. I want him back in my life. Death is just difficult.

He was a genuine source of both encouragement and constructive criticism the likes I have had not had before or since. I miss you, Meka.

marcuschong 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

The fake death thought is very common. My brother drowned at the beach when he was only 17. We all stood there helpless, unable to find him. His body took some time to return to the shore, and a friend of a friend of the family was the one who identified him.

I was very young, only 7, but my cousin, who was 15 at the time, spent years searching for him, convinced the body had been misidentified. Later, when I grew older, I also went through the phase of thinking, "He was too smart and strong for that. Maybe he ran away somehow."

drivingmenuts 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My best friend of 25 years died 4 years ago and I still think of him at least once a week, wishing I could talk to him. It was almost a year before I could even talk about him without completely breaking down. I never once thought: "oh, this is a medical issue". It was just me having the same problems processing my grief that American men have because we're not raised to talk stuff out. Once I did start talking about it, it got easier and easier to deal with.

I still miss that guy, though.

randycupertino 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I still randomly gmail my dear beloved best friend who died of melanoma 18 years ago. It goes into the ether. I hope gmail doesn't reassign his account to someone else for inactivity, they will get my "thinking of you, miss you, this thing happened that you would have found hilarious" emails.

tonymillion 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

That actually happened with texts to a grandmothers phone number that was (eventually) reassigned.

https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/home-news/family-sho...

thijson 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I heard about people that would keep the voice mail of a departed loved one on their phone undeleted. They would replay it from time to time to get the feeling that they are still there. Also they would wear their clothes to feel their presence.

moioci 2 days ago | parent [-]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_i59j74g3s

khazhoux 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

FWIW, there's no way gmail recycles inactive email addresses. That would wreck security worldwide.

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imp0cat 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sound right, as it would be an easy way to take over other accounts connected to that inbox.

opan 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What happens to those accounts they've been deleting for inactivity lately then?

khazhoux 4 days ago | parent [-]

They just sit there, dead.

rkomorn 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yep. I've been trying to get one for my username.

It's one of only two conflicts I've ever encountered online, and it's been inactive for over a decade, but I can't claim it.

Poomba 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yahoo does recycle emails though if i recall

bitexploder 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Grief is a very difficult emotion and I like the analogy of it being a deep ocean. When you experience profound grief you are dropped almost immediately into that ocean. If it is your rodeo with grief you don’t know how to swim. You don’t know where you are. You are in an endless night of depth. You may not even know you are in the ocean at first. Your brain is simply drowning. Some constant in the mind’s universe has changed. Abruptly.

I don’t believe, completely in the narrative of American men not taking stuff out, but it is a factor. The underlying issue for not talking stuff out is ensuring you feel understood. That you are not alone in this experience. That grief is okay, normal. That you have been taught a life philosophy that encompasses grief. That it can exist without consuming all. It helps anchor these powerful emotions. There are other ways to achieve this, everyone will have their own strategies. I do think you have to have a philosophy and process to handle grief however you do it.

I believe in acknowledging grief and practicing Stoic style thinking to stay present. It really helps me to acknowledge the moment is precious. Wrenching on a car with a buddy. Sitting at the dinner table with your family. Acknowledge how special that is. That it won’t last forever. Cannot. Tell them and yourself how special it is. Visualize life without that moment anymore. Bring a little grief to the every day and present as a part of our human condition. It is okay! It is not spoiling the moment if you are using that emotion to fully experience the present.

Grief as many people experience and process it is almost always the past. Even simply acknowledging it as the powerful force in our mind can help tame it. Observe the grief so to speak, see it as an observer. I am glad you found your way. Everyone should think about grief and talk about it. Just part of us.

KurSix 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s love with nowhere to go

sctb 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I love to miss people. I think missing is a complete and beautiful expression of love, just as much as having.

antisthenes 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think you don't truly know if you love someone until you miss them for some time.

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khazhoux 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

That's nice, but I'm curious if this feeling that you love is from the loss of a spouse or (even more so) a child? The "unthinkable" losses.

tenacious_tuna 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When I first encountered this description of grief it really resonated, but it's felt less poignant as I've gotten older, partly because I find myself grieving people who still live, and are simply too different from how I remember them or how I thought I knew them to support the relationships I want to have with them.

I suppose the principle still holds: the "love" I have for those versions of those people cannot go anywhere, but that feels dissonant with not wanting to know these people as they are, or knowing the relationship I'm wishing for is otherwise ill-fated. In either case, the relationship cannot continue, and that drive the sense of grief anyway, so maybe I'm just splitting hairs.

Such is the complex nature of grief and of human relationships, I suppose.

jadbox 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Love is best shared. Grief can be a powerful tool to help build up healthy new relationships.

rhcom2 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

"what is grief if not love persevering"

supportengineer 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I lost four close family members, including my parents in the last five years and so I know exactly what that urge feels like.