| ▲ | XorNot 5 days ago | |
> Absolutely right. There is a certain cowardice in how we deal with death in the contemporary west. Someone always rocks up to say this in these threads, and then never actually offers any suggestions of what they think an alternative should look like. It's in the same vein as people who complain no one ever talks about serious subjects, and I'm just wondering why they think I want to get into discussing the meaning of life in the workplace cafeteria. Seriously, what is the alternative meant to be? A celebration of death? Constantly reminding people that everyone will die and you'll be forgotten completely in about 3 generations? Why focus on the inevitable rather then actually living? | ||
| ▲ | overfeed 5 days ago | parent | next [-] | |
> Someone always rocks up to say this in these threads, and then never actually offers any suggestions of what they think an alternative should look like. It's a broad observation about culture - there's no "alternative" to a well-established culture, no single forum comment will change society. > Seriously, what is the alternative meant to be? ... Constantly reminding people that everyone will die and you'll be forgotten completely in about 3 generations? I think you're on to something here; there's an inherent conflict between ruthless individualism that tells people they can do anything they put their mind to, and the stark, limiting reality of mortality. That's a bummer, so don't think or talk about it, or it'll mess with your grindset. Collectivist cultures already embraces the idea that one's life is more than just about the individual, so grief and talking about death are far less radioactive. Religions that embrace ancestral spirits being presence offer comfort in continuity; her husband isn't really gone, and he may even watch ober their daughter, and even help her in math exams. In that light, dying is less of a big deal - more of a transition really - compared to oblivion, which is super heavy. I'm not saying these are better | ||
| ▲ | pizzathyme 5 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |
An alternative would be: + Yes, allowing people to have a celebration goodbye party before they go + Allowing for medically assisted dying on a person's own terms + More open conversations about: directives, how people would like to be treated when they near death, wills, inheritances, funerals. These are all taboo topics + A natural part of life | ||