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non_aligned 2 days ago

Isn't that just a lot of words to say "my taste is objective / rooted in reason, other people's tastes are a crapshoot"?

Can you prescribe some specific test to tell objective design aesthetics from the "groupthink" ones? If not, then what are you saying, other than "I know when I see it, but not everyone does"?

Sure, there are things we do in a particular way because of manufacturability or utility considerations, and that stays pretty stable in the long haul. We put windows in homes in specific places and make them rectangular. But that's not taste, that's practicality. Everything else changes dramatically from one decade to another.

saulpw 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The short answer to your question is "no". The long answer is "read Zen And The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance".

sings 2 days ago | parent [-]

This thread also makes me think of Susan Sontag’s essay On Style.

tsunamifury 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When you spend a lifetime learning design you learn the difference between taste and fashion. Taste is the ability to make solid choices coherently within a system being it fashionable or not.

Fashion is just the latest system that is popular.

Tasteful people can design good things regardless of the fashionable era. Great ones can create new fashionable eras.

privatelypublic 2 days ago | parent [-]

More examples: look up Dieter Rams (a person). Ran into the name a while back, and man- he made a record player 50yrs+ ago and it was never meant to be in fashion. It sure would still fit in as "simple device that does X" in the 2020's.

non_aligned 2 days ago | parent [-]

I really don't think that's a good example. That's someone who designers hold in high esteem. Most people today would not buy products with these aesthetics.

Granted, I does hold up better than most, but I don't think it's an example of some immutable, objective principles of fashion.

tsunamifury 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Bro. You know the iPhone is almost entirely inspired by dieter right?

Like you statement could not be more absurdly wrong to a laughable degree.

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