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Few of Waymo's most serious crashes were Waymo's fault(understandingai.org)
20 points by vinnyglennon 2 days ago | 7 comments
kelnos a day ago | parent | next [-]

> The most ambiguous case occurred in Phoenix in May, when a cat crossed a street ahead of a Waymo. The Waymo braked, but couldn’t avoid hitting the cat, “which subsequently ran away.” The sudden braking caused several cars to rear-end the Waymo and each other.

That's not ambiguous at all. If you are unable to stop in time if the car in front of you slams on the brakes, you were following too closely, and that is your fault.

RivieraKid 18 hours ago | parent [-]

But there was no car in front of the Waymo, it was a cat.

B-Con 17 hours ago | parent [-]

The cars behind the waymo and hit it were at fault for the collision.

My guess is that the ambiguity is about the trade-off: "even if no one should hit you for slamming on the brakes, is it a good risk to take over a cat?"

bitpush 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The actual article title is -

> Very few of Waymo’s most serious crashes were Waymo’s fault

>> I looked at 45 major Waymo crashes—most were human error.

Not sure whether you intentionally submitted a misleading title, or was a genuine mistake. Either way, the submitted title grossly changes the meaning.

EDIT: Read the article to see whether the headline was clickbaity. Spoiler - it was.

> At 1:14 AM on May 31st, a Waymo was driving on South Lamar Boulevard in Austin, Texas, when the front left wheel detached. The bottom of the car scraped against the pavement as the car skidded to a stop, and the passenger suffered a minor injury, according to Waymo.

Among the 45 most serious crashes Waymo experienced in recent months, this was arguably the crash that was most clearly Waymo’s fault. And it was a mechanical failure, not an error by Waymo’s self-driving software.

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That's the most serious of the crash. The article is written in a way to sound like the autonomous driving had issues, when it was mechanical failure. Not saying that's bad, but isnt what the title of the article was trying to say. It could have as well be $any_car

vinnyglennon a day ago | parent [-]

HN alters the text sometimes of titles, such as Very Few to Few

jqpabc123 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tesla's safety solution --- lie and deny.

https://electrek.co/2025/08/04/tesla-withheld-data-lied-misd...

aitchnyu a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I seem to recall detractors saying Waymo cars are too by-the-book and got into more accidents than humans, and videos where they crossed into oncoming traffic. The numbers paint a great picture.