macOS has certainly fallen pretty far, but if we’re going to compare them, Windows is and has been a complete tire fire for well over a decade at this point.

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anon1395 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Why do you say that?

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stouset 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Because I have used all three OSes extensively, and this is pretty incontrovertible?

Settings have been half-assed so many times that random options require going back three or four generations back into the control panel. Modal confirmation boxes that must be dealt with before you can do anything else with your computer are a constant occurrence. Everyone feels the need to completely redesign their own UI chrome. Updating drivers requires remembering going to a dozen separate vendors and manually fetching them (not to mention knowing where to go in the first place). It's filled to the brim with ads that need to be disabled across five or six different places, that need to be re-disabled every upgrade. Every developer, including Microsoft itself, spams notifications for absolutely inane things. And on and on and on.

macOS isn't perfect by any means. But the level of abject disdain for users going on in the Windows ecosystem these days is impossible to ignore.

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hu3 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> incontrovertible.

I don't think so. I use all 3 OSs and they all have their strengths. macOS major strength for me is the hardware that comes with it. But the OS is so unbearable that I hardly use it.

Linux is better in a lot of ways way than Windows and macOS since you can customize it. But the catch is that it takes a bit of constant work and knowledge to tame it.

It's pretty clear how many sharp edges macOS has because there's an entire market of tools to fix it.

Window management: Windows > Linux > macOS.

Games: Windows > Linux Proton > macOS.

Battery (partly because of hardware): macOS > Windows > Linux

Performance (laptops): macOS > Linux > Windows

> Settings have been half-assed

Whenever I see someone complain about windows setting I know they barely use it, or use it in a non-power user way because when I need to access a setting, I just press Windows key and type part of the word I need to access. It searched settings from there. Only grandma navigates settings with a cursor.

> Modal confirmation boxes that must be dealt with before you can do anything else with your computer

If the operation will permit changing system files, yes, and that is good. In my experience I get one or 2 of these per day. Some days none.

> Updating drivers requires remembering going to a dozen separate vendors.

For some hardware perhaps. And that's because Windows runs in almost all PCs that are not macs. But for popular hardware, windows updates also downloads drivers. I think I only installed NVidia driver and that's because I wanted to keep it at a fixed version.

> that need to be re-disabled every upgrade

Not my experience but maybe because I use Windows Pro version.

	▲	tyleo 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I’m pretty much with you on all these points. I’ll add that I don’t care that drivers break on Windows because at least it works with all my 3rd party hardware. All this being said, I still prefer my Mac. The battery life, screen, speed — basically the hardware — is so good that it makes up for all of the shittyness in the OS.