Not even the government at this point. The oligarchs are now in full control of the US and are dividing up their kingdoms. The plans for glulags for detractors are also being placed.

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selimthegrim 7 days ago | parent | next [-]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45289785 - one of the comments in the linked NYT article suggests we all read Eugenia Ginsburg’s GULAG story as preparation.

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geertj 7 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> The plans for glulags for detractors are also being placed.

This needlessly divisive and devoid of any factual basis. No gulags will exist and you know it.

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mschuster91 7 days ago | parent [-]

> This needlessly divisive and devoid of any factual basis. No gulags will exist and you know it.

What about "Alligator Alcatraz", that has been called "concentration camp" [1] (so comparable with a gulag), or where the Korean detainees from the raid on the Hyundai/LG plant ended up, alleging utterly horrible conditions [2]? And there's bound to be more places like the latter, that was most likely just the tip of the iceberg and we only know about the conditions there because the South Korean government raised a huge stink and got the workers out of there.

Okay, Alcatraz 2.0 did get suspended in August to my knowledge, but that's only temporary. It's bound to get the legal issues cleaned up and then be re-opened - or the case makes its way through to the Supreme Court with the same result to be expected.

[1] https://newrepublic.com/article/197508/alligator-alcatraz-tr...

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07v1j98ydvo

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PKop 7 days ago | parent [-]

Those people aren't American citizens, the comparison doesn't fit.

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TheCoelacanth 7 days ago | parent [-]

They didn't get due process, so there's no way to be sure that American citizens aren't getting sent there.

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PKop 7 days ago | parent [-]

Of course they're making that distinction but I'll accept your tacit agreement that it's ok as long as they're non citizens.

	▲	TheCoelacanth 6 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I do not agree with that. In some cases it is acceptable to detain non-citizens for immigration-related offenses, but only if they receive due process to establish that they indeed should be detained. Any denial of due process to any person is a gross violation of our most important right. Without the guarantee of due process to everyone, no one has any rights because those in power can violate rights at a whim.
	▲	mschuster91 6 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		There have been reported cases where ICE just ignored people's legal residence status or that they also snatched up citizens who didn't have paperwork on them just for "walking while black". ICE doesn't reliably make any distinction, not since they hired thugs off of the streets and issued arrest quotas. Doesn't matter if the arrested have to be released later on.