> Chinese tech dominance is inevitable and anything the US tries to do to contain it will just hasten the inevitable.

Only if we let our business leaders and economists make the decisions.

It's already done - they have unmatched engineering capabilities.

Whatever resources you are thinking they are much better.

- math and engineers- soft/hard. they are #1 in the world, and their education system is ready to produce in 2-3 years even more in any domain.

- electricity for ai, they are producing nuclear plants and solar like candies.

- semiconductor industry - NVIDIA + TSMC is really the last frontier. They are leaders everywhere else.

The US is run by lawyers, China is run by engineers.

Unfortunately for the software/AI industry, this likely means the same outcome as every other industry China has dominated: displacement.

If you work in software and you're complaining about your situation now... this is just the beginning. China will capture major market share, and AI will transform what remains.

The US can't even ban TikTok, let alone address the broader presence of Chinese cameras, drones, and other devices packed with AI and software. Meanwhile, the EU is eager to buy Chinese cars loaded with everything from software to chips and hardware.

you all can see a capitulation messages from western media:

US made phone will cost 30% more or 60% whatever. Basically refusing any attempt to protect the market and invest into engineering power etc.

Just to remind you how china got here. They place crazy restictions, they ban google, car manufactures, etc. and stimlate stimulate invest for decades.

Now this strategy pays off, and we will be with no jobs.

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palmotea 4 days ago | parent [-]

> It's already done - they have unmatched engineering capabilities.

Nothing is ever done.

The US and West won't be able to return to its period of unrivaled technological dominance, but it's not inevitable that they will be dominated either.

But to avoid domination it has to 1) abandon its suicidal fixation in neoliberalism, 2) abandon its lazy assumption of technological dominance so it can start learning and investing in lost capabilities, and 3) kick business and consumer interests out of the driver's seat.

There's actually some progress being made on 1 & 2, but unfortunately not so much on 3.

> you all can see a capitulation messages from western media:

> US made phone will cost 30% more or 60% whatever. Basically refusing any attempt to protect the market and invest into engineering power etc.

Honestly, I think that is actually one of short-sighted partisan politics, not some kind of capitulation. Trump likes tariffs and advocates for bringing manufacturing back to the US, and nowadays liberals first and foremost oppose Trump and everything he stands for. They lost the last election in part due to inflation they caused, and now they're trying to win the next one on inflation they can pin on Trump.

	▲	rapsey 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Neither the US nor EU have enough of a functioning political system capable of such reforms. China dominance is inevitable baring a complete political overhaul of the west. This would take a civil war.