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xkcd1963 5 days ago

What about NordVPN and ExpressVPN are those somewhat trustworthy?

jmyeet 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

I wouldn't trust either, for different reasons.

Both of them really advertise too much (IMHO) to be trusted. They rely on introductory pricing and hoping people don't realize and get billed at a much higher rate, a model I personally hate.

But ExpressVPN has an additional reason: ties between it, its founder and Israel. There's a BDS argument against right there but additionally, there are accusations that ExpressVPN traffic is or can be monitored by Israeli intelligence.

That last one is a risk of many VPNs, which is why you have to be careful about who the owners are and where the company is incorporated. I personally prefer VPNs that are located in more privacy-focused jurisdictions (eg Iceland, Switzerland).

Mullvad is a popular option on HN. I'm also relatively positive on PrivadoVPN (located in Switzerland). Some Redditors question the quality of the service. So far it's been fine for me.

mrweasel 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Given their need to advertise with pretty much any YouTube channel willing to take their money, I'd be inclined to question the quality the likes of NordVPN and SurfShark.

baobun 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It boggles me how one can see them as anything but sus after tops 30 minutes of looking into it. You get that all those "top 5 vpn" sites and youtube recs are sponsored, right?

akimbostrawman 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Both are proprietary and require personal information to register and pay so obviously no.

AzzyHN 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Trustworthy enough to shitpost behind? Sure.

Trustworthy to break some actual laws behind? Absolutely not.

bitxbitxbitcoin 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Define trustworthy? In my experience, no.