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| ▲ | danieljacksonno 4 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Your clique might be more skeptical. Statistics show the population at large is not. |
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| ▲ | cianmm 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Here’s some data. Skepticism is pretty low and approval is pretty high https://www.statista.com/statistics/1360333/euroscepticism-e... |
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| ▲ | graemep 4 days ago | parent [-] | | Do those numbers include the UK when it was in the EU? Obviously removing a large pool of sceptics would shift the numbers. The "positive" number has recovered from a low in the wake of the Eurozone crisis but is still fallen significantly from the pre-crisis level of around 50%. It would be interesting to see a breakdown by country - The EU's own report suggests very big variations between countries: https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/905... | | |
| ▲ | delusional 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The current "positive" number from spring 2025 is actually 52%, only 5 points down from the highest number in the past 20 years, and the second highest trust number in the same time period. Sure, the eurozone debt crisis of the 2010s was rough for the trust mumbers, taking them down to 33% but they've fully recovered from that. | | |
| ▲ | graemep 3 days ago | parent [-] | | You are looking at this: https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/3572 it seems to be using a different measure (numbers do not match the link I posted) and I cannot see any numbers from 20 years ago. There is graph from 2012 but that is from the low (if you look at my link). Have a missed a pre-crisis comparable number in skimming it? If not, then what I see is still a significant decline over the last 20 years in the net positive. IMO the Eurozone is very likely to have further crises. The architects of the Euro expected a greater degree of fiscal union but that never happened. A single currency without a large central budget is a mistake and makes it much harder to correct instability. | | |
| ▲ | delusional 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I'm looking at the "standard barometer 103 - Spring 2025"[1] which lines up with the first graph in the "standard barometer 101" you linked. > A single currency without a large central budget is a mistake and makes it much harder to correct instability. That's an opinion. You're free to have that opinion, but trust/distrust of the European Union has little to do with that opinion. [1]: https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/3372 |
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| ▲ | izacus 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Did you already forget that Brexit went through on a razor thin margin? | | |
| ▲ | graemep 3 days ago | parent [-] | | It happened at all because the UK was the most Eurosceptic big EU country so it could still have an impact on the numbers. Also, negative and positive feelings are not the same thing as a vote. For example, some people who felt negative about the EU voted remain because they were worried about economic disruption (the government was predicting a severe recession in the event of a leave vote - not after leaving, merely as a result of a vote). I am sure people can think of other examples and both ways, but the point is that "feel negative/positive" and "would vote to leave/remain) are not the same number). |
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| ▲ | Insanity 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sure, and to add more anecdata, my observations are different from yours. It's easy / tempting to extrapolate from our limited bubble / point of view, but it doesn't tell you anything about a population at large. |
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| ▲ | barrenko 4 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If public opinion and vote was honored there never would have been an EU, just ask the French. |
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| ▲ | qnpnp 4 days ago | parent [-] | | This is wrong though. France held a referendum on the creation of the EU in 1992, and approved it. You're thinking of the 2005 referendum, which was about the TCE. The EU already existed before that. |
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