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ACCount37 6 days ago

Laptops are vile piece of shit devices, as a rule.

All the complexity of a PC, in a package the size of a book, with the engineering quality of a Happy Meal toy.

lostlogin 6 days ago | parent [-]

I’m very had very different experiences, with MacBooks.

AstralStorm 6 days ago | parent [-]

Well those are just so underpowered it literally hurts. All of disk size, expansion options and memory.

And booting something that isn't a funny variant of a locked down OS is relatively hard.

lostlogin 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Well those are just so underpowered it literally hurts. All of disk size, expansion options and memory.

That’s not a complaint have heard before. My needs aren’t huge and it has a lot more of everything than I need.

> And booting something that isn't a funny variant of a locked down OS is relatively hard.

I wouldn’t want anything else in it, but with a Mac mini I really wish it would run something Linux more easily. They are a great headless server, but the OS is really limiting.

MindSpunk 6 days ago | parent [-]

Intel MacBooks were overpriced, under powered, overheating junk. They ran outdated processors at launch day and charged a premium because they had the best screens and track pads money could buy.

Apple Silicon Macs are a 180. Fantastically fast and efficient hardware stuck with an increasingly locked down OS, zero upgrade path and still a premium price.

If you’re holding on to the memory of Intel Macs I can certainly agree, they were not great.

nebula8804 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Outdated processors or Super ULV processors? Their obsession with maximizing battery life meant that the processors were unable to throttle highly. Clearly they knew Apple Silicon was coming so they took their time re-engineering the devices. Why bother? At the same time i've heard stories of Apple being very pissed at Intel for delivering such poor chips for their target thermal design.

butlike 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The trackpad is a device-selling feature though. They really are that much better than the competition.

opliko 20 hours ago | parent [-]

There are now thankfully more haptic trackpads on the market, and honestly while mac trackpads still seem a bit better than at least what I've used (some Synaptics solution on a HP laptop; no idea how they compare to e.g. Sensel which is allegedly closer to or even better compared to Apple) the difference isn't big IMO.

But yeah, going from a more standard trackpad to a decent, large haptic one is night and day and basically made me stop using a mouse on-the-go in most situations. It now genuinely seems crazy to me that you can buy expensive, "premium" laptops without one.

butlike 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You complain about complexity and engineering quality, but then say all of the options should be customizable here. I think one has to sort of pick what they want. Terrible build quality since the RAM dimms aren't soldered on, or, a completely un-upgradable system that's packaged nicely.

To go off your McDonald's analogy, you can get a lot of kCals without necessarily getting a lot of nutrients.

Edit: GP comment wasn't yours, but I think my point still stands.

whatevaa 5 days ago | parent [-]

I doubt that build quality and whether RAM is soldered on is related.

LoganDark 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

MacBook Pro with 8TB of storage and 128GB of unified memory here.

Skill issue.

thorncorona 6 days ago | parent [-]

Yes, and how much did you pay for it.

LoganDark 6 days ago | parent [-]

Just over $6,000

whatevaa 5 days ago | parent [-]

Sounds like money issue, not skill.