I am not sure that means what you think it does. That’s not liquid dollars and does not mean those home owners have savings for emergencies.

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smegma2 6 days ago | parent [-]

The median American also owns $39,000 in liquid financial assets.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/files/scf23.pdf (page 22, “Financial Assets” section)

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Terr_ 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

It doesn't say liquid assets though, it mentions multiple options which vary in how easily you can/should use one to pay an unexpected bill or period of unemployment.

For example, if one is using their life-insurance payouts to pay their rent... well, something has gone very wrong somewhere.

Specifically, this part:

> financial asset—which includes transaction accounts, certificates of deposit, savings bonds, other bonds, stocks, pooled investment funds, retirement accounts, cash value life insurance, and other managed assets

For the highly-liquid "transaction accounts" (checking, savings, money-market) the conditional [0] median is just $8k.

[0] AFAICT "conditional" here means "we don't include $0 data points in the median." That explains why the subcategory of "stocks" has a higher conditional median value than the more-general category of financial assets.

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smegma2 5 days ago | parent [-]

Sure, I couldn’t find a better data source than that. If you find a better source that includes liquid assets specifically that would be helpful. I am skeptical that of the 39k in assets listed there, there isn’t a substantial amount that can be used to pay the bills (i.e. who has $39k in their 401k but $0 anywhere else?).

	▲	Terr_ 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		It seems some "Survey Data" files are publicly available [0], but without investing a bit more effort in parsing them (which is definitely not happening on my phone) I'm not sure if they have the kind of household-by-household data that could be used. https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/scfindex.htm

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infecto 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Again I don’t think that means what you think it means. It says “value of all financial assets” which includes banking accounts, cds, stocks, bonds etc. that is not liquid.

The next exact line it calls out those bank accounts and the mean at $8,000. That is not a lot of liquid emergency savings for a household let’s say of 3.

So I don’t think your point stands.

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smegma2 5 days ago | parent [-]

Everything you listed is liquid. CDs can be withdrawn early for a small penalty, and most likely without even losing any of your principal.

	▲	infecto 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Again that number is inclusive of retirement accounts, hard to say much without knowing the breakdown but we do know $8k is the closet cash number. I would suspect the majority of the rest are in retirement accounts. Sure bonds and stocks are liquid but not like cash is. Using Fred is not that useful for these type of exercises as I don’t think those datapoints do a great job on topics like this. So I don’t see what you are trying to point out. Most surveys I have seen put something like a quarter of Americans without any emergency savings.