Usually Elon's technical flaws aren't on display, or at least he covers them well. For example while it's true FSD hasn't worked out, but I don't know you could say at the time "most competent AI devs knew it wouldn't work out". However, when Elon attempted to move PayPal from Linux to Windows, most competent software engineers would have advised against it. Paypal isn't an example of Elon's genius in action - it's the opposite.

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Fricken 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

When Tesla introduced HW2 it was clear to people in the self-driving industry that it wouldn't work out. Elon was insistent on repeating mistakes that other companies had already learned from. Of course the other companies never considered some people's willingness to pay good money just to pretend that their cars can drive themselves.

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terminalshort 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> FSD hasn't worked out

Says who? I've tried it and the capabilities are amazing. If you told me 10 years ago that I would be able to buy this in 2025 I wouldn't have believed you.

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rstuart4133 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Says me, who owns a Y that has the FSD package. Random braking on a highway, indicator lights coming on for no apparent reason, windscreen wipers the start on a dry day, attempts move through a red light. None of those things are common, none are serious if your hands are on the wheel and you are giving it your full attention. It's a serviceable attempt at FSD Level 3, and auto park works well.

But when I bought it, Elon was promoting hiring out your car as a FSD level 5 taxi when you weren't using it. If I regularly took my hands off the steering wheel and went for a snooze (if that was possible, which it isn't because they would be sued within an inch of their life), I'd be dead by now.

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vachina 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah HN hivemind is wild. FSD is something you can buy and use RIGHT NOW. Autonomous driving in YOUR HANDS. Waymo still feels like a school project.

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