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AndriyKunitsyn 2 days ago

The wonders of propaganda make it so that "Ukrainians bombed it" is given as an irrefutable fact, and not something that needs a lot of evidence.

Nobody remembers anymore that Pres. Biden himself said, “If Russia invades ... there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” [°] Nor that the very next day, a EU parliament member, and now Polish foreign minister Radosław Sikorski thanked the US for the sabotage [^]. Nor that the same day, a competing natural gas pipeline has opened, the Baltic Pipe [_].

None of this matters, because "Ukrainians bombed it". Because WaPo and WSJ said so. In a waterway that is heavily controlled by all kinds of NATO vessels. Where NATO had an exercise 3 months before that, called BALTOPS. Come on.

[°] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8

[^] https://archive.ph/20220927190022/https://twitter.com/radeks...

[_] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Pipe

lossolo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

It's not only WaPo and WJS but investigations in Sweden and Germany. Read the reports.

"Nord Stream sabotage: Berlin issues arrest warrant for Ukrainian man"

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/08/14/n...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-is-known-about-nor...

AndriyKunitsyn a day ago | parent [-]

Is there at least one piece of evidence in these reports?

urspx 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. If you're curious and willing to spend ca. half an hour on the question, I can recommend this excellently done video from the channel 'fern': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHsONupIdlo

sharpshadow 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

And let’s not forget the crazy analysis of Dr. Braun.[0]

0. https://hansbenjaminbraun.ch/nordstream.html