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amelius 3 days ago

"Autopilot" already exists when it comes to flying.

bdcravens 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Sure but it's not autonomous in the sense of Waymo (ie, driverless)

ckastner 3 days ago | parent [-]

Landing can be: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoland

In fact, it's pretty routine. Don't have the source at hand, but somewhere around 1% of all landings (at airports with ILS) are autolands.

I think it was Boeing that even requires at least 1 autoland per plane every 30 days or so.

You can find videos of this on YouTube. Completely hands-off.

themafia 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Most carriers have a rule that on clear days you always hand fly the landing.

This is a competence you do not want to lose.

It's also the case that you can have a whole approach setup in your flight computer and at the last minute the controller gives you a runway change. You could drop your head down and start typing a bunch info the FMC but you're generally better off just disabling auto pilot and manually making the adjustment.

amelius 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm curious, what is harder to implement: autoland for airplanes, or autoland for rockets (spaceX)?

ckastner 3 days ago | parent [-]

I don't know if these are comparable.

But two interesting data points from the Wikipedia article I linked are that the first aircraft certification for ILS Cat III was in 1968, and Cat IIIB in 1975.

And IIRC by the 1980s, autoland was already a pretty common feature.

danielvaughn 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes but it should have been obvious that in the context of Waymo + SFO, the implication was autonomous flying of commercial airlines.

seanmcdirmid 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, but autopilot usually just keeps the plane flying in a straight line at some specified altitude, which have been around since 1912. It isn't full self-flying (although we definitely have drones that can fly themselves already, so that tech already exists).

dawnerd 3 days ago | parent [-]

That's an oversimplification of autopilot systems. They can follow flight routes, avoid traffic (TCAS), even auto land to name a few.

seanmcdirmid 3 days ago | parent [-]

Auto-landers are not simply classified with autopilots. An autoland system is an advanced function that is part of a modern aircraft's overall autopilot capabilities. A basic autopilot can control an aircraft's attitude and heading, but an autoland system can automatically execute the full landing procedure.