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ivanjermakov 3 days ago

I wonder where Java would be today without superb tooling and smart student programs from JetBrains.

pjmlp 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Java has enjoyed powerful IDEs since late 1990's, some of them are even free beer!

tsimionescu 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Java world had plenty of student programs without Jet Brains. There is even a student-focused IDE, BlueJ, with plenty of visual representations to help people new to programming get their bearings - and this existed since 1999.

jen20 a day ago | parent [-]

Sadly BlueJ teaches people almost exactly the wrong things about object-oriented programming.

Onewildgamer 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Java was thriving during the golden age of Eclipse Foundation and IDE. JetBrains is very much recent.

stevoski 3 days ago | parent [-]

> JetBrains is very much recent.

JetBrains is 25 years old, almost as old as Java.

szatkus 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

IntelliJ use wasn't that widespread until about 10-15 years ago. Java was thriving before that.

jen20 a day ago | parent [-]

It was in heavy use in London investment banks in 2005. Even resharper was commonplace by the following year.

TheFreim 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Around 10 years ago Eclipse was still the primary editor in the circles I was in.

pjmlp 2 days ago | parent [-]

Still is on my circles, and at home I have been always a Netbeans fan.

I am an IDE guy since Borland products for MS-DOS, yet I was never sold on InteliJ anyway, and Android Studio made me dislike it even further.

karmakaze 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I was using Eclipse back then, but indeed Wikipedia says IDEA 1.0 (Jan 2001) predates Eclipse IDE (Nov 2001).

NetBeans was bought by Sun in 1999 and opensourced on Jun 2000.