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randycupertino 10 hours ago

There also was Mitch Mcconnell's sister in law, shipping billionaire Angela Chao, who drunkenly drove into a pond on her property and couldn't get out of her Tesla. Interestingly, her own sister was the Head of the Department of Transportation when the model she died in was approved.

https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/angela-chao-death-texas-tesl...

> “The night was chilly and very dark, with no moon, so rather than walk, Chao got in her Tesla Model X SUV for the four-minute trip back to the house.

> The account of what happened to Angela Chao that weekend is based on interviews with people close to Chao and her family, county officials who were briefed on what happened or were there, as well as reviews of law-enforcement documents.

> Within minutes of saying her goodbyes, she called one of her friends in a panic. While making a three-point turn, she had put the car in reverse instead of drive, she said. It is a mistake she had made before with the Tesla gearshift. The car had zipped backward, tipping over an embankment and into a pond. It was sinking fast. Could they help her?

> Over the next several hours, her friends, then the ranch manager and his wife, and then paramedics, and firefighters and sheriff’s deputies rushed around and tried to break the windows, find an escape hatch or any way to get Chao out of the car. Somehow an executive who made her living on the sea was drowning in a stock pond within sight of her home.”

Ajedi32 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> paramedics, and firefighters and sheriff’s deputies rushed around and tried to break the windows, find an escape hatch or any way to get Chao out of the car

A team of firefighters, paramedics, and police officers couldn't find a way to break the windows on an SUV?

tokai 10 hours ago | parent [-]

No, looking at the timeline, in her wiki article, it seems that they got her out shortly after they arrived. They started resuscitation attempts as soon as they got her out, so I would guess it ran full of water in the time it took ER to arrive.

IshKebab 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Woah that's crazy. Killed by two of Musk's dumb decisions.

ncr100 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Seems like Musk is just racking up the "related to" immediate kill count, with his involvement in organizations .. that is:

He was involved in the US government and he shut down, his department shut down, the USAID. And that one shut-down is, according to reports I've read ... which I don't have on hand, hundreds of thousands of dead people.

I understand his argument is, in the future .. things will be better. We will be on Mars, safe from asteroids. We will have cars, safe from reckless drivers. We will have immortal brains, safe from natural degradation. We will have an electric economy, avoiding the toxic dependence on oil and gas.

Pulling back -- I wonder if there is a correlation between empowered individuals and deaths, and their whether there is a need (for humanity's sake) for group thinking and decision-making when it comes to situations that could create mass death? (To avoid mass death.)

We have a US president who (and apparently for decades past have had a vulnerable political system, regardless of Trump) is essentially destroying law and order through the unilateral illegal or provably corrupt directions that he's giving, and through his followers (Supreme Court, Congress, Senate, Executive, appointed Agency heads) who align their organizations with his retribution campaign. This is on my mind today.

So in this US presidency I see situation there is a group of people who are making these decisions. This counter-proves my hypothesis.

However, this group are following the leader and, I suppose like in Nazi Germany, where there were tons of people who were following the leadership and the ideology that made the holocaust happen and 6 million people plus dead, they aren't really thinking for themselves, it doesn't seem to me. They aren't thinking as a group. They are following.

adolph 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Pretty sure the "drunkenly drove" part will overcome many a great decision. Maybe these the engineering and design decisions were dumb. However, judging decision quality from a small sample or most salient result does not improve decisions.

https://nautil.us/the-resulting-fallacy-is-ruining-your-deci...