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numbers_guy 2 days ago

> however simultaneously are unaware that the cushy "European" lifestyle they love only exists because of the US

Why do so many Americans believe this? I would like to see some real accounting of the US-EU relationship. Americans only focus on the supposed defense relationship, where supposedly the EU is under investing because the US will supposedly come to the rescue. Every single other aspect of the US-EU relationship is ignored.

fnordian_slip 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Don't even try, you won't get a reasonable answer. I've had a discussion with a similar commenter here quite recently, and in the end, they ignored my arguments and still pretended that I admitted that "Europeans view Americans as suckers."

Even if you were to show them data, you could never convince them, as their position is based on emotions. And you can't argue someone out of a position using facts, if that person didn't arrive at that position using facts to begin with.

nxm 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Because there has been a major trade imbalance for decades, and Europe has been underspending for defense and being more than happy with the US tax payer paying for its security.