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NoImmatureAdHom 16 hours ago

In the U.S. and much of the rest of the civilized world, you have rights. This includes the right to not self-incriminate (in the U.S. that's the 5th amendment). In general, except for very specific and limited circumstances, U.S. state and federal government actors cannot compel speech (telling your encryption keys is compelled speech).

The U.K. is fast sliding down the slope to being a dystopian police state. The idea that you can be jailed for refusing to provide encryption keys (except for really specific, narrowly-defined circumstances) is something that should induce nausea. I feel for you and your country, you accomplished such great things.

jansper39 16 hours ago | parent [-]

I just saw that president Trump is thinking about prescribing 'Antifa' as a terrorist organisation and saying that he's 'not sure' their 1st amendment rights should apply.

I'd be a little more concerned about the state of US at this point.

gampleman 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

We've already done that in the UK with a certain pro-palestine organization.

NoImmatureAdHom 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Trump is just one man and he won't last much longer. Also, declaring "Antifa" a terrorist organization might make sense.

The U.K. is waaaaaaay further along in this direction. Wrongthink on a social media post? Jail.

They arrest 30 people a day for this: https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/05/15/britains-police...

( https://archive.is/vaCkJ )

NaomiLehman 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Declaring "Antifa" a terrorist organization makes as much sense as declaring "MAGA" a terrorist organization

NoImmatureAdHom 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't actually know what "Antifa" is, if it is in fact anything specific (rather than, e.g., a banner used by many and disparate groups--maybe that was your concern?).

What I did mean is that declaring certain organizations to be terrorist organizations (HAMAS, Al-Qaeda, etc.) seems to be well within the remit of the executive branch.