▲ | ForHackernews a day ago | |
> Our You are a partisan. I'm sure all your points are correct in some narrow technical sense, but I agree with OP: Graphene is an OS for geeks who want to geek out about security, not for normal people who want to use a smartphone without surrendering all their digital privacy. Independent researchers have confirmed that /e/OS leaks very little data, and that's good enough for me https://www.tcd.ie/news_events/articles/study-reveals-scale-... If you're a security nerd, live in an authoritarian state, or you're a targeted activist, Graphene is a better choice – although, really, you should be using a burner phone or staying offline. | ||
▲ | strcat 9 hours ago | parent [-] | |
> You are a partisan. I provided accurate and verifiable information. You are yourself clearly here to promote /e/ and attack GrapheneOS, which you're doing with objectively false claims about both. /e/ has far lower app compatibility and stability. It lags many months and years behind on critical privacy and security patches. Their services were down for many months recently. It has major issues with stability and functionality across devices. Those are facts. People can verify that what I've said is accurate along with looking at the third party sources from actual experts, contrary to the phony inaccurate study from 2021 done in coordination with /e/ that you've provided. > I'm sure all your points are correct in some narrow technical sense They're all accurate and not only in a narrow sense. > Graphene is an OS for geeks who want to geek out about security, not for normal people who want to use a smartphone without surrendering all their digital privacy. GrapheneOS objectively provides far better app compatibility and stability than /e/. It's far better tested and provides the current generation Android functionality and usability rather than being based on old versions. > Independent researchers have confirmed that /e/OS leaks very little data The paper doesn't claim any such thing and /e/ has added multiple kinds of invasive telemetry and services since 2021. You should check the much more up-to-date and better researched information from Mike Kuketz and Divested. Your claim that they're independent researchers is unsubstantiated and contradicted by information which has come out about the motivations and methodology behind what they published. /e/ was involved in it. > If you're a security nerd, live in an authoritarian state, or you're a targeted activist, Graphene is a better choice – although, really, you should be using a burner phone or staying offline. /e/ isn't safe to use due to lack of current privacy and security patches. It should be avoided by anyone who cares the slightest about privacy or security. Going years without receiving important patches for serious privacy and security issues is a severe problem. Contrary to what you're claiming, GrapheneOS provides much better app compatibility and stability. Murena's services were recently down from early October 2024 through March 2025, for an idea of what people can expect from the OS and services: https://community.e.foundation/t/service-outage-announcement... |