I always thought that Gnome developers are imitating macOS. Not copying blindly, but following the ideas and intents.

Finally I hear from real users that the Gnome team has not just reached parity, but has actually exceeded their source of inspiration. (Partly due to the degradation of the latter, but still.)

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robertlagrant 7 hours ago | parent [-]

When it takes me 5 clicks and two open windows to pick a bluetooth speaker in Gnome, I remember how far behind it is from MacOS's 2 clicks and zero windows.

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Fluorescence 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

What?

It's pretty much the same. Click the speaker icon the menubar, bluetooth is one of the options, third click to choose a connection.

There are plenty of excellent extensions if you want something different. I use dash-to-panel to combine the system tray in my dock and not have a pointless menu bar.

> zero windows

Are you not calling the MacOS sound-panel a window? It's the same type of panel you use in Gnome!

I use both everyday and it's MacOS that's buggy, inconsistent and hobbled:

- my speaker doesn't appear in the MacOS sound panel but does appear in the bluetooth section of settings so I have to go there to connect and it works as a speaker. MacOS is literally worse than Gnome at this specific task!

- I also can't use my Mac as a bluetooth speaker but I can use Linux as one. Pretty lame.

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robertlagrant 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Are you not calling the MacOS sound-panel a window?

When I click on the bluetooth icon in the top bar of MacOS it pops out a little list, and each bluetooth option has a toggle next to it where I can click to toggle.

In my version of Gnome, I click at the top bar to open a menu, then click Bluetooth On (or the name of the currently connected device). That pops out a sub-menu, in which I click Bluetooth Settings. That opens a window that lists the paired Bluetooth devices. I can click on one, which opens another window over the top, where I can click a toggle to connect it. I stare at it waiting for it to connect (it's slightly less reliable at this than the Mac[0], so it's worth watching it) and then I click again to close that window, and finally click again to close the window underneath. Actually 7 clicks!

[0] It could be the Mac is no better at this, but the UI interruption is basically zero to check and re-click, so it at least feels better, and I can do other stuff between checking.

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Fluorescence 5 hours ago | parent [-]

If it annoys you then do look for an extension e.g.

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1401/bluetooth-quick-...

Recent vanilla gnome has the same type of pop-up as MacOS but it does it does have one more click to expand possible connections if changing connection not just toggling.

You could use no clicks and truly no windows with "bluetoothctl connect ..." :)

	▲	robertlagrant 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It doesn't annoy me; it's just not as good! Glad to hear that when I upgrade it'll be almost a copy of the MacOS design by the sound of it. > You could use no clicks and truly no windows with "bluetoothctl connect ..." :) Sadly I change connection between my phone, my work laptop, and my home Ubuntu manually. Otherwise it'd just stay connected!

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macco 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It doesn't. It takes 2 clicks.

	▲	robertlagrant 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Maybe that's a new version of Gnome? I have 5 clicks (actually 7, I realised in a sibling comment).