I don't really recommend isomorphic environments, but if it's your cup of tea, Tanstack Start is making a lot of progress. It removes all of the magic and misdirection of Nextjs and just provides a good light alternative.

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rustystump 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Issue with all things tanstack is they change everything constantly. The Tanner guy really does make decent libs but he drops em pretty quickly for others to take up maintenance on which makes it risky to pull into any production app.

The best library are the complete ones.

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koakuma-chan 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

AFAIK "TanStack" doesn't support RSCs? That's a deal breaker for me. Also the guy named his framework after himself, it can't be good.

	▲	staminade 17 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Linus named Linux after himself, it can't be good!
	▲	Swizec 16 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		For the record, the TanStack name comes from the community. Eventually Tanner stopped fighting back and made it official
	▲	presentation 16 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		They built a half baked version of it and then haven’t finished it for a while but maybe they’ll get back to it sometime.
	▲	collingreen 17 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Linux also sucks for this reason /s

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throw-the-towel 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Could you please elaborate on why you don't recommend isomorphic environments?