| ▲ | siva7 21 hours ago |
| So you're all saying suddenly codex cli w gpt 5 codex is better than claude code? Hard to believe |
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| ▲ | jumploops 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Not suddenly, it's been better since GPT-5 launched. Prompting is different, but in a good way. With Claude Code, you can use less prompting, and Claude will get token happy and expand on your request. Great for greenfield/vibing, bad for iterating on existing projects. With Codex CLI, GPT-5 seems to handle instructions much more precisely. It won't just go off on it's own and do a bunch of work, it will do what you ask. I've found that being more specific up-front gets better results with GPT-5, whereas with Claude, being more specific doesn't necessarily stop the eagerness of it's output. As with all LLMs, you can't compare apples to oranges, so to clarify, my experiences are primarily with Typescript and Rust codebases. |
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| ▲ | srcreigh 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Codex CLI of course will sometimes do the wrong thing, or sometimes do something extra that you didn't intend for it to do. It seems about half my sessions quickly become "why did you do that? rip __ out and just do ___". Then again, most of the other sessions involve Codex correctly inferring what I wanted without having to be so specific. | | |
| ▲ | elcritch 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, I tried Claude Code CLI and never found it too useful, but that was Claude 3.5 era. Still using Claude 3.7/4.0 via Cursor were much better but still had to micro managed. GPT5 + Codex CLI has been pretty productive for me. It's able to get a lot right in a simple prompt without getting too distracted with other crap. It's not perfect, but it's pretty good. I actually worry GPT5-Codex will make it worse on that aspect though. One of the best parts of GPT5/Codex CLI is that it tends to plan and research first, then make code. |
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| ▲ | mvieira38 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This has been my experience even in Cursor. I often select the GPT-5 option because I know it will "know" better how much reasoning effort it needs | |
| ▲ | drob518 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yea, I have struggled with Claude to keep it focused on what I want and only what I want. I have no experience with GPT-5-Codex, but maybe I should. | |
| ▲ | j45 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sounds like the difference between finding what needs to be done, making a plan, and executing on it remains something to consider and be aware of. Claude Code has been a revelation and a bit of a let down the past 45 days. Some open acknowledgement would have been great, but in lieu of it, it seems it's best to hop on a new tool and make sure you learn how to prompt better and not rely on the model to read between until usage is "optimized" and it no longer seems to work for those folks. I've seen some interesting files that help any model understand a programming language as it's strong suit and it might not even be an expert in and how to best develop with it. | | |
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| ▲ | strangescript 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Its been better for awhile, people are sleeping on it, just like they slept on claude code when it initially came out. |
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| ▲ | barrenko 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| People are using claude code + glm models as alternative too, some complaints flying around. |
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| ▲ | wahnfrieden 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| It is 100% true. And they are rapidly losing users to Codex. Charts were shared recently showing a massive migration underway. |
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| ▲ | CuriouslyC 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Oh yeah, Sonnet performance has been in the toilet for me. They claim they've mitigated it but when 4.0 first dropped CC was really impressive, and now I constantly have to babysit it because any time it hits a challenge it'll just stop trying and make a simple toy version and declare false victory. If I don't catch it and I let it build on top of that bullshit, things get nasty in a hurry. It's a shame because the plan is a great deal but the number of all caps and profanity laced messages I'm firing off at Claude is too damned high. | | |
| ▲ | resonious 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This hits home for me too. Claude feels like it has gotten more "yes-man"-y. I can no longer trust its judgement. Even if I come in with something dead wrong, I'm "absolutely right" and it finds amazing ways to spin my BS into something vaguely believable. I am also bullying Claude more nowadays. Seeing this thread, I might give Codex another go (I was on Codex CLI before Claude Code. At that time, Claude blew Codex out of the water but something's changed) | |
| ▲ | dmazin 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes, this. I feel like I’m going crazy. I pay for the extra Opus usage and I keep checking the model switcher to see if it has automatically switched to Sonnet. It has not. I just have a lot more experiences of it feeling anecdotally dumb lately. | |
| ▲ | wahnfrieden 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | GPT-5 is comparable to Opus without needing to constantly dip back down to Sonnet for cost management |
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| ▲ | AstroBen 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Am I missing something? That.. doesn't seem to be true? https://npmtrends.com/@anthropic-ai/claude-code-vs-@openai/c... |
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