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bdamm a day ago

Why liquid fuels or chemistry at all? Something simple like moving blocks of cement uphill with a motor/generator would be more efficient.

epistasis a day ago | parent | next [-]

Run the numbers and you'll find that blocks of cement are pretty expensive compared to the batteries!

Over the past decade there's been several startups trying to do gravitmetric non-hydro grid storage, and even with favorable conditions (e.g. a large free train track on the side of a mountain) they can't get the economics to work. Plus, that tech is never getting cheaper, like batteries are every day.

jakobnissen a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Do the math on energy density. 1 kg of fuel contains roughly 45 MJ, which would require you to lift 1 kg of cement 4.000 km up.

Or, alternatively, 1 liter of petrol has enough energy to lift a 3 tonne cement block 1 kilometer upwards.