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palata a day ago

That's not mutually exclusive with what I said.

Laws are not here to make money, they are here to decide what kind of society we want. If electronics is too cheap and it creates wastes, I'm of the opinion that we should make it illegal, period.

lyu07282 a day ago | parent [-]

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datameta a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was with you until the last clause of the final sentence, which I believe is against the HN guidelines.

MattGrommes a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does liberal mean something different where you live? Where I live, the right-wing republicans are the ones who are prone to letting corporations do whatever they want without regard to the people/environment getting hurt.

ruds 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In most of the world, "liberal" doesn't mean the left half of the political spectrum. In many places it's the centerish part and in a few places it's the rightish part. In the US, until recently, almost all mainstream politicians were liberal in this sense (even while many of the Republican liberals used "liberal" as an epithet in campaign ads).

From wikipedia:

> Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law.[1][2] Liberals espouse various and sometimes conflicting views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion.[3] Liberalism is frequently cited as the dominant ideology of modern history

lyu07282 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In this case I was referring to economic liberalism, the believe in private property, free markets, etc., not what Americans believe it means. This includes democrats and republicans [1], they are both economically liberal. I forgot Americans are under the impression that liberal means left-wing / democrat or something. The differences you point out are within this ideology, so like which industry do and don't we subsidize and regulate, etc. it has less meaning for people who aren't liberals.

[1] see the overlap between the economic policies of Reagan and Bill Clinton

steezeburger a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Liberals generally want more regulation what are you talking about and why are you breaking the HN rules?

datameta 15 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't recall the exact language but it was rather flame-war-esque in a comment full of otherwise benign discourse. The issue isn't liberals or conservatives being mentioned. In what way do you think I broke the rules? That it wasn't a substantive comment on its own? I didn't feel the pull to silently flag and hoped for GP to elaborate.