Almost every electronic device becomes disposable at some point, some sooner than others. Just make sure you bring them to an e-waste bin when that time comes. E-waste recycling is a profitable business, so there's always one nearby in my experience.

If you have some old Samsung Galaxy Gio from 2011, it'll provide far more value by recycling it back to raw materials than it would if you'd somehow try to keep it usable in 2025.

The problem here is planned obsolescence in a product's design. That is what needs to be made illegal.

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palata a day ago | parent [-]

> Almost every electronic device becomes disposable at some point

And we're all gonna die, why would we have laws at all?

When we say "disposable vape", it's not to say "it will eventually stop working". It's more to say "you use it, you throw it away".

> E-waste recycling is a profitable

I don't doubt it's profitable, but it's most certainly not a good thing for the planet. Recycling is generally not a solution to waste.

> The problem here is planned obsolescence in a product's design. That is what needs to be made illegal.

Seriously? We're talking about DISPOSABLE VAPES. They are built to last as short a time as possible. At this point I am not sure if you think you disagree with me, are just nitpicking for the fun of it, or something else?

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uyzstvqs a day ago | parent [-]

I am not disagreeing with you. I agree that these disposable vapes should be made illegal. What I meant is that "disposing" is a broad term and is not always bad. Many good products eventually become naturally obsolescent, at which point it's often best to responsibly dispose of them.

The actual problem here is how the product is intentionally designed to only be used once, when that's absolutely unnecessary. We both agree on that. That falls within the issue of planned obsolescence, and that's what regulation needs to target.

	▲	palata a day ago \| parent [-]
		Right, got it. Though I don't believe that when someone talks about a "disposable" product, they mean that "this is a product that you will dispose of before you die". Usually "disposable" means that it's meant to have a short lifetime. A laptop or a smartphone are not "disposable" in that sense, even though we don't keep them for our lifetime.